Shooting Friday night on Franklin between Union and E. Pkwy

And yesterday (Saturday night), there was another shooting on Franklin between President and Carroll

Subject: Re: Sad

oldbrooklynite wrote: I remember when you could walk that area at 2 A.M. and still be safe

According to my friends who grew up in the area you could NEVER walk that stretch at any time of the day and be safe until the past couple of years.

Summary of this thread regarding Franklin Avenue:

50's to early 60's: safe
60' to around 2004: unsafe
2004 - present: some signs of gentification, but not yet safe.

We are talking about south of Eastern Parkway, right?

Franklin north of EP is a different story. I don't know anyone who lives here who would consider it particularly unsafe these days. If you have just rolled in from Kansas it may seem 'different'. Shit happens every so often but that's NYC. Otherwise the neighborhood is lively, friendly, diverse and generally awesome.

Cannot speak for south of EP as I do not know it well enough. Although those I know that live there seem to like it.

There are shootings all over New York. Including Manhattan. Unfortunately that is NYC.

All of NYC is unsafe if you are the target in a shooting. If not you have more chance of being knocked down by a bus.

I do take your point but I think it is more a question of perception than likelihood.

Yeah, my point is, if shootings don't make you feel unsafe, what does? There are muggings all over New York too. (btw, the homicide map from the Times makes pretty clear that our general area of BK has a *much* higher frequency of those types of crimes than most other parts of NYC)

I guess I don't feel particularly unsafe, but I think it does have an impact on your general quality of life and the vibe of the hood. I'm sure most people are glad the mobile police tower has been on F.A. for the past couple weeks, but I bet even more would prefer it not have to be there in the first place.

Lo Kee wrote: [quote=whynot_31]Summary of this thread regarding Franklin Avenue:

50's to early 60's: safe
60' to around 2004: unsafe
2004 - present: some signs of gentification, but not yet safe.

LOL

whynot your assclownery never fails to amuse and entertain

I wish cross-posting wasn't broken so I could "best-of" this post!

Subject: Re: Shooting Friday night on Franklin between Union and E. P

sterling2000 wrote: I walked out to the street late Friday night and both sides of the street were taped off, lots of uniformed and plainclothes cops, cars, etc. A cop told me someone got shot and a guy at one of the bodegas told me he saw a covered body on the sidewalk...

Anyone know what when down?

Did anyone ever answer your question, Sterling?

People can explain away the recent uptick in violence (or make light of it) as much as they want, but in the 2 years I lived here before Wall Street blew a $2 Trillion hole in the economy, it was a pretty safe neighborhood (only 2 shootings I remember, one of which involved a cop after someone threw a brick at them from the top of a building on Union).

The 9 months since have been a different story, and one that's been increasingly violent. I'm sure this isn't the only neighborhood where this is happening, but it's still cause for concern.

Whatchuwant wrote: [quote=sterling2000]Something else went down on the same block early Saturday morning the 25th...around 9:30 am there were ambulances and cops with one guy getting loaded into a patrol car with another guy with a freshly-bandaged hand being frisked near the ambulance

That's interesting- this is EM26's block. Last year at the same party a young girl got shot. Great party! :roll:

That shooting wasn't at my block party last year! Our block parties are peaceful,thank God.

The shooting was at the block party a week after mine, on President street. I don't think they've had their block party this year. Prolly they won't after that incident.

Em26 wrote: [quote=Whatchuwant][quote=sterling2000]Something else went down on the same block early Saturday morning the 25th...around 9:30 am there were ambulances and cops with one guy getting loaded into a patrol car with another guy with a freshly-bandaged hand being frisked near the ambulance

That's interesting- this is EM26's block. Last year at the same party a young girl got shot. Great party! :roll:

That shooting wasn't at my block party last year! Our block parties are peaceful,thank God.

The shooting was at the block party a week after mine, on President street. I don't think they've had their block party this year. Prolly they won't after that incident.

That actually is my block. From what I understand, the perp wasn't from the immediate neighborhood, but from the Ebbets Field projects, though that's still pretty close. The really crappy part about the whole thing - beyond the little girl getting shot, of course - was that it happened about half an hour after the police had just agreed to let it continue for another hour more past the 8pm stopping time of the permit.

TeReKeTe wrote: Aside from the bodega on the east side of Franklin just south of the 99 cent store-- which is always teaming w/ dealers-- Franklin itself is rowdy but safe. If yr not involved in 'the trade,' then really no one's gonna mess with you. We've been on the corner for 8 years and have yet to be messed with.

If you live on the south side of EP, develop some sort of relationship with the bodega guys, the businesses on your block, and (especially) Sal & Mohammed @ sal's.

The blocks between Franklin and Bedford and Franklin and Classon/Washington can be grimey; Union btw Franklin and the Museum especially. Pretty sure it comes down to just 4-5 knuckleheads but there are always-- i mean, nightly always-- grandoise moments of idoicity and violence going on on that block.

I agree with this.

I live on Carroll between Franklin and Bedford. On the way home from work I tend to take the B/Q because I absolutely hate getting cat calls at that bodega south of the $.99 store. I actually dread getting off the trian on those days I don't take the B/Q. Other than that, they don't bother me and I've never had an incident in the 4 years I've been in the area. Say hello and keep it moving.

@ pwaltman_1972
Ebbets Field Apartments are not projects.