ACORN Cheats And Brooklyn

eggcream wrote: [quote=pokersloper]Eggcream,

Thank you for posting those videos links, they are very interesting. Wow.

You're welcome. Stay tuned tomorrow.

Can you give us a sneak peak, or will I just have to be patient and wait?

modsquad wrote: The 2000 election is history and like the 1960 election nobody gives a shit.

will you let eggcream know when the ACORN obsession is history, so s/he can move on to the next Republican boogeyman?

hitokiri wrote: [quote=Flo]Sorry Eggcream. Not following it. Seems unimportant to me. How many days is it gonna make the cover of The Post and how ridiculous was the picture in Post today? I am bored by this story already, but predict that many a people have their halloween costumes picked out for this year because of it.

so a group that tell people how to avoid taxes, tells how to illegally gain housing and does potential voter fraud doesnt interest you?

I see...

Well....let's see are we talking about accountants now or republicans? I hear they are going to raise taxes in the Caymens anyway. I certainly think this has been embarassing for Acorn, but like Boy G said, I'm not sure that advising pimps and hookers is one of Acorn's specialties. Not the story of the day as far as I'm concerned. That's an opinion. Eggcream asked if we were following the story and I answered.

eggcream wrote: Here is the link to the video in California where not only does the ACORN woman, again, have no problem with child prostitution and screwing taxpayers, she admits to killing her ex abusive husband and laying the groundwork to do so.

I thought you were all about the truth. The police have already investigated and dismissed that story. But I guess that won't stop the crazy right from repeating it. If they do it enough, some people will believe it.

http://mediamatters.org/research/200909160003

See what happens when you rely on Fox for News? You get lies.

Wait a minute. These kids went to 5 different locations only and were advised by 5 ACORN reps as to how to conceal money made through prostitution, purchase a house by lying about their business, told to bury money in a tin in the back yard so the governement can't find and, and.....most outrageous of all, discussed how to bring girls from El Salvador between the ages of 12-15 years old to be hookers. The San Diego ACORN advisor told them he had people in Tiajuana that could help get them over the boarder without trouble and has done it before!!!

Now how can anyone possibly justify what happened?? There should be some major investigations (which are now underway) and all public funding should be completely stopped.

I'm all for people helping those in need, and the intent of this group probaly started out well, but I can't help but wonder if this was uncovered by a couple of kids, what else has gone on that no one knows about yet??

Seriously, this is indeed a clear case of misdeeds and inappropriate behavior but anyone that feels that Obama is to blame for this could be akin to Chicken Little.

People, the sky is not falling.

eggcream wrote: [quote=dakotas way]Wait a minute. These kids went to 5 different locations only and were advised by 5 ACORN reps as to how to conceal money made through prostitution, purchase a house by lying about their business, told to bury money in a tin in the back yard so the governement can't find and, and.....most outrageous of all, discussed how to bring girls from El Salvador between the ages of 12-15 years old to be hookers. The San Diego ACORN advisor told them he had people in Tiajuana that could help get them over the boarder without trouble and has done it before!!!

Now how can anyone possibly justify what happened?? There should be some major investigations (which are now underway) and all public funding should be completely stopped.

I'm all for people helping those in need, and the intent of this group probaly started out well, but I can't help but wonder if this was uncovered by a couple of kids, what else has gone on that no one knows about yet??

Sadly, Carnivore and the other posters don't seem to think child prostitution is a big deal.

Anyone remember the Food King lawsuit against ABC? Undercover reporters were investigating claims of sanitation issues at the supermarket chain. Reporters went to work for the chain, wore hidden cameras and found evidence that there were sanitation issues at the chain. Guess what Food King did when they learned of the impending broadcast? They filed a lawsuit. I forget the exact legal arguments, but I think ABC was originally fined something to the tune of 5 million for trespass and fraud. (Reporters did not identify themselves as reporters when they were hired by the food chain.) I think that fine was eventually reduced to something very nominal, but I bet it cost ABC a bundle in lawyer fees anyway.

Not saying I think ACORN ought to go the old corporate way...just wondering if any of the supporters of the conservative activist and his pimp dressing ways have any opinions about that old Food King lawsuit. I'd bet good money that the Cato Institute and other conservative think tanks fully supported Food King's side on that one.

It's obvious that ACORN's got some problems with who they hire. And like Food King, after the ABC report, it looks like they lost some income already.

I think this NYT piece did a good job of summing up the ACORN Category 5 in a demitasse.
http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/09/18/weekend-opinionator-acorn-falls-the-web-rises/?hp

Carnivore wrote: Another straw man, eggcream?

No one said that. What we are saying is that the actions of a few individuals doesn't counteract the fact that the organization as a whole has done a lot of good. The individuals need to be punished. You know, like how the entire Catholic Church isn't a child molesting organization.

You really don't think the fact that these stings happened at 5 locations doesn't warrant some kind of further investigation?

If one Catholic priest turns out to be a child molester, yea. Punish the individual. If victim after victim keep coming out with substantiated claims, eff that, it's time to investigate!

I don't want to draw conclusions or make assumptions about people, but somehow if there were a wager to be placed to say the ppl here backpedaling and making excuses for ACORN were, not even a year ago, looking for any conceivable reason to impeach Bush & Cheney, I would take it wholeheartedly.

You have a display of gross misconduct and poor ethics shown 5 times at various locations around the country at a publicly funded and controlled organization. How can that not be indicative of a widespread problem in need of investigation????

Boygabriel wrote: what do you think an investigation is going to turn up? ACORN secretly exists to give tax advice to pimps?

Well the first obvious thing I would look for is personal income tax evasion among ACORN employees.

....I'm waiting for the folks against Atlantic Yards to point out ACORN endorsed the porject, and this is yet another reason it should not happen.