Hipster Denial about Race and Crime
I would like some of the Brooklynian readers to STOP DELUDING THEMSELVES that violent "crime can happen to you anywhere", and pushing the relativistic attitude that all neighborhoods are somehow equally safe or unsafe, particularly for whites. CRIME STATS., HOWEVER UNDER-REPORTED CERTAIN CRIMES MAY GO, ARE AVAILABLE ON THE NYPD WEBSITE. All you have to do is type in a zipcode.
I've lived in NYC for 10 years and am a New Yorker by birth.
I lived for two years in a Puerto Rican section of Williamsburg and never had one (NOT ONE!) issue of attitude or crime directed at me (and there was “crime” there, and it had a sketchy appearance). I walked around late at night all the time (past midnight). Actually there was one time someone said something nasty to me, instigating it- it was a black woman (just think about that... in a Puerto Rican neighborhood). It was a nasty racial remark, combined with an eye roll. I yelled at her, of course.
I currently live in the predominantly white, Russian/Jewish immigrant area of Midwood. I'VE LIVED HERE FOR 6 YEARS. While there is drug-dealing or criminal activity, I HAVE NEVER WITNESSED 1 SHOOTING OR VIOLENT CRIME. LAST TIME I CHECKED, THERE WERE 0 MURDERS AND 0 RAPES IN ANY GIVEN YEAR HERE, and only a smattering of muggings, presumably by all of the little ghetto black kids that hang out by the train station, horsing around. They don't actually live in this neighborhood, technically… they get on buses after school and head north. All races feel welcome enough to come and shop here, though.
I once witnessed about 15 of these little ghetto black kids, boys, “jump” a white kid (1 KID…VERSUS 15) on a bike who didn’t even know them. They did attempt to steal something from him, but mostly just punched him and pummeled him for no real reason. A black girl who was standing next to me witnessing this commented “Sometimes, I’m just ashamed to be black”.
I walk around at 4 am, or 2 am. My roommates take the subway at 4 am to work, or coming home from parties. WE DON’T HAVE TO LIVE THE WAY YOU DO. SOMETIMES I EVEN LEAVE MY DOOR UNLOCKED, IF NEEDED.
I think I might later post this other post I found on craigslist about a Hispanic family that is willing to pay someone to use their zipcode so that they move their child out of the Harlem area school districts, where she is teased and threatened relentlessly for looking white, having "nice hair". How pathetic. How sad it is that people have to move around or pay money or make any effort at all to send their children to a SAFE SCHOOL to avoid the ghetto problem. Inexcusable.
So anyways, I find it annoying that certain POLITICALLY CORRECT, MORALLY SELF-RIGHTEOUS readers here attempt to “beat-down” any person who posts a safety question about given neighborhoods.
DON’T DELUDE YOURSELF THAT THERE IS AN EQUAL RISK OF VIOLENT CRIME IN ALL AREAS. Or even an equal risk of being at the receiving end of “ATTITUDES” or unwarranted, unjustified RACIAL HOSTILITY.
Like 90% of “whites”, I am not descended from slave-owners. Stop justifying that behavior.
Funny, my black ex-boyfriend was the first to remind me to lock my car doors when we were driving through Flatbush, years ago. And he grew up around there…
I've lived in NYC for 10 years and am a New Yorker by birth.
I lived for two years in a Puerto Rican section of Williamsburg and never had one (NOT ONE!) issue of attitude or crime directed at me (and there was “crime” there, and it had a sketchy appearance). I walked around late at night all the time (past midnight). Actually there was one time someone said something nasty to me, instigating it- it was a black woman (just think about that... in a Puerto Rican neighborhood). It was a nasty racial remark, combined with an eye roll. I yelled at her, of course.
I currently live in the predominantly white, Russian/Jewish immigrant area of Midwood. I'VE LIVED HERE FOR 6 YEARS. While there is drug-dealing or criminal activity, I HAVE NEVER WITNESSED 1 SHOOTING OR VIOLENT CRIME. LAST TIME I CHECKED, THERE WERE 0 MURDERS AND 0 RAPES IN ANY GIVEN YEAR HERE, and only a smattering of muggings, presumably by all of the little ghetto black kids that hang out by the train station, horsing around. They don't actually live in this neighborhood, technically… they get on buses after school and head north. All races feel welcome enough to come and shop here, though.
I once witnessed about 15 of these little ghetto black kids, boys, “jump” a white kid (1 KID…VERSUS 15) on a bike who didn’t even know them. They did attempt to steal something from him, but mostly just punched him and pummeled him for no real reason. A black girl who was standing next to me witnessing this commented “Sometimes, I’m just ashamed to be black”.
I walk around at 4 am, or 2 am. My roommates take the subway at 4 am to work, or coming home from parties. WE DON’T HAVE TO LIVE THE WAY YOU DO. SOMETIMES I EVEN LEAVE MY DOOR UNLOCKED, IF NEEDED.
I think I might later post this other post I found on craigslist about a Hispanic family that is willing to pay someone to use their zipcode so that they move their child out of the Harlem area school districts, where she is teased and threatened relentlessly for looking white, having "nice hair". How pathetic. How sad it is that people have to move around or pay money or make any effort at all to send their children to a SAFE SCHOOL to avoid the ghetto problem. Inexcusable.
So anyways, I find it annoying that certain POLITICALLY CORRECT, MORALLY SELF-RIGHTEOUS readers here attempt to “beat-down” any person who posts a safety question about given neighborhoods.
DON’T DELUDE YOURSELF THAT THERE IS AN EQUAL RISK OF VIOLENT CRIME IN ALL AREAS. Or even an equal risk of being at the receiving end of “ATTITUDES” or unwarranted, unjustified RACIAL HOSTILITY.
Like 90% of “whites”, I am not descended from slave-owners. Stop justifying that behavior.
Funny, my black ex-boyfriend was the first to remind me to lock my car doors when we were driving through Flatbush, years ago. And he grew up around there…
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Uh huh... Go ahead & leave YOUR doors unlocked if you want to. This isn't Mayberry. By the way, if you think it's a "Black" thing, you're crazy. It's an opportunity, poverty & disenfranchisement thing. I am NOT making excuses - just stating facts.
Oh, and I AM Black. -
It sounds like your new boyfriend is Glenn Beck. The all caps style is something you should take a step further, if it highlights your main point then leave out the rest just leave the CAPS. I am unsure where you went to school or if you research your back round , lots of blacks and whites have ties to slavery, unsure if shooting and crime in general have anything to do with one another. A good place for you to start is PR, find out what % of the islands population is black, after your discovery read further and find out what sub-sects of Jews live in your neighborhood, yes lots of former soviet statesmen but they make a small percentage of the Midwood Jewish population. After living in both MW and CH for 8 years per I have found that most kids do not stay after school until 2am in front of the train station. I do enjoy your spin about where the students really belong, Are you saying that they should leave right after school so the area will be crime free?, Midwood's crime is bussed in? Was your man the guy who tried to deposit the 25 million dollar check in the drive thru teller? The largest hipster population in Midwood goes up and down Ave H on their way to BC for school and then they go home.
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I didn't edit my post to perfection... it's an internet post, not an essay.
Um, you're denying the main point. BLACK AREAS TEND TO HAVE HIGHER CRIME RATES. Poverty and the single-parenting/out-of-wedlocking that leads to poverty, CREATES POVERTY, can explain some of that. But not all. And I don't have to live in an area full of gun-shots. We do have drug dealers here. Just not gun-shots.
And I can swear on a bible to all those things that happened. My ex-boyfriend was not Glenn Beck. He was a hip-hop DJ.
More PC liberal bullshit. Maybe you deserve the areas you live in.
Btw, I checked out Bed-Stuy, Harlem and a bunch of other areas before deciding on Midwood. I moved here because it was cheaper. The foolishness of you paying $1600 for a 2br, while your neighbhors on Section 8 are paying $700. Yes, there is something odd about the contrast of working class/poor black people next to yuppie/hipster/well-off white liberal people.
KEEP EXCUSING VIOLENT CRIME.
Keep excusing what happened to that local neighborhood boy, beaten randomly by 15 black kids. I don't mind anyone being here- what I mind is inexcusable behavior.
I also yelled at one such ghetto black kid after he threw a styrofoam cup down on the street like it was nothing. He picked it up, apologized and threw it away. There's only so much a person can take. -
Silly, like most of the russian and jewish and asian immigrants around here, MY ANCESTORS IMMIGRATED HERE AFTER WHITE MALES BANNED SLAVERY BY IN THE 1850'S... It still exists in Africa.
So yeah, I have less connection to slavery than your average African, or, for that matter, BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA HIMSELF, descended from slave-owners on both sides of the family tree! Where's the reparations from him?
Obama needs to thank his white mama, and grandparents more... you know, THE ONES WHO RAISED HIM!
Just think, Obama met his African father once- in an airport. How pathetic. That's about as black as Obama gets. -
Oh, yeah, I don't want to leave my door unlocked, but sometimes, if a friend needs to leave while I am not home, yeah, I can. Stop distorting the argument.
YEAH, IT IS A BLACK THING.
70% out-of-wedlock parenting rate is a BLACK THING.
Even Obama told blacks to "shape up!" That's a direct quote. -
Yes, most of Midwood's *violent crime is bussed in!
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Yes, many Puerto Rican's have some black in them. BUT THEY DON'T HAVE THE SAME LEVEL OF HATRED DIRECTED AT WHITES, GET IT? Like I said, no issues with skin color, but I have big problem with black hostility and racism and double standards and denial.
I know this Puerto Rican landlord in Harlem that is now a self-described "racist" who "hates black". I tried to excuse it away to her, but after her tenants threatened and attempted to burn her building down, after grown black men threatened to kill her, repeatedly, even after her calling the cops a lot, after being called a "WHITE BITCH" 100 times, despite not being white, her brain has just sort of been altered. She now rents out to tourists. I tried to tell her ALL RACES HAVE RACIST PEOPLE IN THEM- ALL RACES HAVE BAD PEOPLE/JERKS IN THEM. "Yes," she agreed, "but only blacks get violent with their racism".
My Puerto Rican ex hated blacks as well. Not like that's ok, but it is what it is.
YOU ARE JUST A BUNCH OF POLITICALLY CORRECT, RABIDLY LIBERAL, IN-DENIAL, OUT-OF-TOUCH WITH REALITY RADICALS. Screw you- you have blood on your hands, and your a bunch of LIARS. -
Ohhh "e", sounds like you need a hug. Of course, not from me... Maybe your Black ex-boyfriend (since you had to mention that he's Black, maybe to justify your point), or do you happen to have that ONE Black friend, you know, the one that you can talk about when stupid, pointless, racists, ignorant rants are started like this one?
STOP GENERALIZING PEOPLE BECAUSE OF YOUR ANECDOTAL INCIDENCES
I have no blood on my hands and I am not a liar - What the heck does that even mean? -
I remember this woman in the slope who used to stand on the sidewalk on the weekends and scream
SIGN THE PETITION!
all day long
I never really got her point, either -
e wrote: YOU ARE JUST A BUNCH OF POLITICALLY CORRECT, RABIDLY LIBERAL, IN-DENIAL, OUT-OF-TOUCH WITH REALITY RADICALS. Screw you- you have blood on your hands, and your a bunch of LIARS.
E, Mod here. You have officially stepped over the line and are out of bounds. This thread is being locked. Please read The Rules with regard to how posters are expected to comport themselves on the board. Thank you.
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