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E.P./Washington intersection update — Brooklynian

E.P./Washington intersection update

brownie
edited November -1 in Prospect Heights
Here is a long-winded update. Sadly as it turns out, on Monday NY1 called me while I was waiting for them & told me that they drove by earlier & saw that there was a crosswalk there & a "Yield to Pedestrians" sign & so didn't understand why there was a problem. I, once again, explained the multiple problems with the intersection, especially that drivers blatantly disregard the crosswalk and sign. I wish that they had at least met with us to look at the intersection in person.

They actually said that if drivers weren't obeying the crosswalk/pedestrian yield sign, the solution should be that the police should ticket people there. I applaud them for their idealism, but would our police precinct ever do this & would it actually be a deterrent? Maybe they would; maybe I am too cynical. Maybe we could get the cops I saw going into the subway this morning--with their table & sign announcing they were foraging for terrorists with suspicious backpacks--to position themselves at the intersection.

When I called both our precinct & the Community Board about getting a school crossing guard they both said the big public school complex was a different precinct/community board, respectively. Well, there are plenty of kids on this side of the street.

I can't help but wonder if we were 4 blocks over in Park Slope if things would be different. In fact, last week I walked by PS 282 at 11am one weekday morning & there was a crossing guard on the corner without a child in sight. I asked her why she was there & she said she had hours to make up. Bring her over here! PS has a very active civic association. Perhaps the Prospect Heights Neighborhood Development Council (PHNDC) can expand their purview now that Atlantic Yards seems to be slipping away. I definitely think that we should resurrect the E.P. block council now that its former ringleader, Rob Witherwax, has moved inland in PH.

All that said, I am peeved but also busy so I don't know how far I can take it. In fact, I had let this go thinking soon we will have our proper crosswalk when the median strip project is completed, but then NY1 called me so I figured lets get the project rolling or at least get a crossing guard. But, once again the median project is behind—I am expecting an update on the project status early next week. If it keeps stretching out, more reason for me to keep at it as statistically there is more chance my kids will be hit by a car.

BTW, NY1 is ironically at the intersection right now reporting on the hearing on MTA proposed cuts at the Brooklyn Museum. If the cuts go through we will lose the B71 (E.P. down Union bus) & there will be even more foot & car traffic at the intersection.

Many thanks to all of you who have shown your support. I think it at this point it may make sense to get a group of people to attend the monthly (I think) precinct community meeting. Please let me know if you would be interested in attending or participating in another way (petition, for ex.)--the more the merrier: [email protected]

Comments

  • I really don't understand why they don't write more traffic tickets in this city. Between the speeding, running red lights, illegal lane changes, and mowing down pedestrians crossing legally I don't see how they couldn't easily meet their quotas and not wait around for meters to expire.
  • It's likely a side effect of the split of the police department into Police and Traffic.

    The traffic cops don't do moving violations; they are pretty much restricted to parking violations.

    The "real" cops aren't really interested in moving violations, perhaps because they wish all of it would be handled by traffic. To make a long story short, both sides get to say "it's not my job".
  • My neighbors and I have observed similar circumstances throughout Kings County .

    When we saw this kind thing happening at pedestrian intersections near us
    (Esp. @ evening rush hours when many cars blatantly running red lights were causing many accidents when pedestrians have the right of way)
    we had to call this to the attention of the local police precinct community council meetings.

    We just spoke up and said that we did not want anyone else to be seriously injured because drivers can not be bothered to stop at a red light.
    Enough people spoke up, and it took a long while for drivers to receive multiple tickets before they caught on that they had to stop at the red light for pedestrians but, they finally caught on.

    I think that this approach works better than city surveillance cameras clocking snaps of license plates from drivers who are selfish.
  • whynot_31 wrote: It's likely a side effect of the split of the police department into Police and Traffic.

    The traffic cops don't do moving violations; they are pretty much restricted to parking violations.

    The "real" cops aren't really interested in moving violations, perhaps because they wish all of it would be handled by traffic. To make a long story short, both sides get to say "it's not my job".
    Thanks for explaining. I didn't know the police department was divided that way here.
  • Might be time for some guerilla speed bumping: http://www.livablestreets.com/streetswiki/guerilla-traffic-calming
    If the citywont help, the community could make it a pain for people to speed down ep access roads.
  • yea, we were gonna get Mougar to build it in a prior thread.

    Somehow we moved on and forgot about it.

    http://www.brooklynian.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=555148&sid=abcdf89818ebf2997b89155a41a4f104
  • This entire post is taken from another source. None of it is my writing

    (original poster, I deleted your name b/c I wasn't sure you wanted folks to know where you lived, etc. Quiet likely benefits both of us)

    Yay! We have got some great press on the intersection.
    http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/brooklyn/2010/03/09/2010-03-09_across_a_danger_zone_parents_blast_intersection.html

    http://www.brooklynpaper.com/stories/33/11/33_11_sb_washington_mess.html

    I called the DOT, who had told the press there would be a signal crossing "later this year" and that temporary measures would be implemented in the interim. In reality, when I spoke to the DOT, I was told that the median strip project would start on 7/5/10 to be completed 18 months later, with the new walk/don't sign to be completed in the last phase. When I asked that they push the 77th Precinct for interim solutions (crossing guards, police enforcement) I was told that was a different dept. & I should call the PD myself, again. They said maybe they could help get a flagman during construction. They were not concerned about the stats regarding pedestrian accidents.

    Hopping mad, I called Tish James' office, again. They are going to see if they can get some other electeds involved as they have already reached out to the PD themselves. BTW, this intersection lies at the crossroads of the 77th & 71st (I think?), but also is the line between the Brooklyn North & Brooklyn South commands, which is apparently an even bigger deal. Not to mention the divide between Community Boards & School Districts. In other words, No Man's Land!

    Last, if you would like to go on record as a concerned citizen, please complete the SHORT survey I created: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/KZN6V32
  • Thanks Why Not!

    PLEASE fill out the short survey & send the link to your friends: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/KZN6V32

    While I am buoyed by this press, it is clear that this isn't a done deal & it is key that we show electeds & various agencies that there is critical mass.
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