Left Turns From Flatbush To Park Place

Subject: Re: Left Turns From Flatbush To Park Place

BK164 wrote: Park Place eastbound can be accessed via a right turn onto Seventh Avenue and a left turn onto Park Place.

Given the line of cars that often piles up in the left lane due to people making that turn (or stuck behind those) I've often found that the above can be much faster anyway.

Just like in Joizey, sometimes ya gotta turn right when ya wanna go left.

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Karl, yes...perhaps the jug handle addition here is just one small step in making dislocated Nets fans feel at home.

But a Bennigans would really seal the deal.

so, now folks on Flatbush won't ever be able to turn left by actually turning left!

they never could at Atlantic.
now they can not left on 6th or on Dean.

What's left, St. Marks?

You already can't make a left turn onto St Marks from Flatbush. To get onto St Marks you have to turn right at 6th Ave and turn left into that little triangle in front of Flatbush Farm and proceed across the avenue with the light.

At the end of every month there are cops parked close to that corner pulling tons of drivers over for turning left.

homeowner wrote: Its going to get more interesting when they get rid of the parking on that stretch of Park and add the planters/seating/pedestrial plaza area in the current parking lane. Since its a short block on 7th and a short block on Park I expect plenty of fumes for the seated patrons to breathe in as the traffic backs up.

When is that scheduled?

...which means its all about:

1. Taking Adams Ave/Bourum Place to Atlantic, the taking a left.

2. Eating lunch in your car as you wait to get thru the infamous intersection of Flatbush and Atlantic. (already a good place to meet bottled water sellers who deliver). Note to operators of pushcarts: Surely you can design a cart to fit between the line of cars. Excellent business opportunity.

3. Then, finally taking a right on Vanderbilt to get into "the neighborhood behind the arena parking lot" (formerly known as Prospect Heights)

When I had to do that grind, coming off the bridge I found it was easier to turn either onto Myrtle or Fulton, then come down whatever N/S thruway I needed

Honestly, all of this crap just makes me think that they put crack in the water over at DOT. Which part of these plans are supposed to make it easier to get around in NYC? If the goal is to make traffic on Flatbush flow FASTER on Flatbush, this will do that, but I really thought folks wanted to make it SLOWER so as to be more pedestrian friendly (didn't we just go thorough a tragedy on this street?).

Bike lanes on bus/truck routes, reducing traffic capacity, and making it more difficult for trucks to navigate east of the Hudson (where that is the primary means of goods movement) just seems like they are all at odds with good transportation policy.

where do i sign up to complain about this !!

thats bullshit !!! no lefts from almost myrtle ave till you get to G.A.P. !!!

its the fastest way home when in a cab drunk @ 2am

or in a car with your mother n law just talking you to death !!!

or even reading some of the shitty opinions of some of the posters on this board !
(no names)

but for real wtf made them think that this is a GOOD idea ! ???

Most drivers throughout the US have not been able to make a left turn decision for years. High traffic left turns are controlled using left turn only signal lights that tell the driver making the turn when it's time to turn and when it's time to wait.No daredevil I think I can make it BS. Many sketchy corners are corrected after there is loss of life or somebody with a ton of cash leans on the city. Correcting Hansen Pl at Flatbush has finally been fixed.The island at the junction of Carlton/Flatbush and Park should be eliminated. As well as the junction island Flatbush/7ave/Park. These old school street designs are too far out of date to be of any use.

This is an excellent improvement. Anything that reduces the traffic on Park Place is welcome.

I also suggest to ban right turns from northbound Flatbush onto Carlton. This would solve the issue of cars running the stop sign as they cross Park Place.

And add another speed bump on Park between Carlton and Vanderbilt!