Goldstein Sells Out / Atlantic Yards Update (merged)

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let us return to how much sandy annabi was paid

by bruce ratner for a ridge hill vote



now that we know what she is

i just want to know the final price

he knew from the get go, he would of lost the war, why prolong something everyone knows from recently supreme court cases they are in favor of private enterprises using eminent domain.


everyone knows mostly when you're the last hold out you get a bigger payday. eminent domains sucks balls, but since they use it. he just play all those fools who believe they could of win against the illegal government seizure for a private company.

I'm trying to think of all the things I would do for 3 million....

the list is mighty long, and includes lots of things I'm committed to.

(note: my thoughts assume that I wouldn't have to do these things if I didn't get the 3 million, SOMETHING THAT IN GOLDSTEIN'S INSTANCE WASN'T TRUE.)

Actually, this brings up an interesting question. What happens to your mortgage when the State declares imminent domain? In this case, they took the property, so I'm assuming the bank takes a bath on the loan but does anyone know?

Jack Krohn wrote: And the moral of the story is: anyone's principles can be compromised for a price.

Nice going, Dan. All those years of hard work and in the end you'll be remember simply as a sell-out!

Good riddance!

Right, so they can build your beloved stadium that will surely bring jobs, revenue to Brooklyn (yeah to Ratner's pockets maybe). Whatever, this is the biggest boondoggle in NYC's history.

Karl the Druid wrote:

warning: the contents of this link might cause you to fall down laughing or may possibly cause involuntary vomiting. we ask that you be seated in the safety position and prepare the repository before clicking this link.

"Bertha Lewis, ACORN CEO, Not Happy for Daniel Goldstein"



if the divine mz. lewis only held out longer

brucey boy might have paid her more



seems he only paid her half of what he paid danny and his family

What a disgusting and vile woman.

one can not have a circus without a clown

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2010/04/acorns_bertha_lewis_goes_a_lit.html

Karl the Druid wrote:

one can not have a circus without a clown

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2010/04/acorns_bertha_lewis_goes_a_lit.html

LMAO =D> :clown: =D> :clown: =D> :clown: =D>

re: the above link about bertha lewis, aren't you just validating her comment about goldstein and his followers running a smear campaign? look, she's got a different angle on the atlantic yards. i don't agree with her, but she doesn't deserve to have that kind of picture attached to a sensible email about goldstein.

Chekhovian wrote: re: the above link about bertha lewis, aren't you just validating her comment about goldstein and his followers running a smear campaign? look, she's got a different angle on the atlantic yards. i don't agree with her, but she doesn't deserve to have that kind of picture attached to a sensible email about goldstein.

Given the chance, DDDb did not kick ACORN when it was down. I'm referring the the right-wing activist who posed as a pimp.

You have to remember that not only did Bruce Ratner loan/give ACORN $1.5 million last year to help them out, Bertha Lewis is contractually obligated to say nice things about Atlantic Yards. It's in the Memorandum of Understanding she signed a few years ago.

After Ratner supporters blasted a bullhorn into my daughter's ears last year when she was 9 months old, I am not very sympathetic to her cries of being a victim of a smear campaign. The Ratner supporters literally hurled insults at my 9 month-old daughter.

I am not going to make silly pictures of Bertha Lewis. I'll let her words speak for herself. But given her financial dependency on Bruce Ratner, I think she has opened herself up to criticism.

Jack Krohn, long time no see.

Well, looks like we're on the verge of finally getting some development of that area, after hoping and longing for it for 50 years, and overcoming the maniacally anti-development community's attempts to block every possible brick that could be laid in that area. I can only hope the remaining excuses are quickly overcome and my lifelong desire to see something actually get built in that area will come to fruition sooner rather than later.

Some thoughts: Dan Goldstein did not sell out. You can't blame him for taking the money, not at this point, and it's absurd to say this whole struggle was a cynical ploy just to get a payoff. However, his press statement was typical of his obnoxiousness, as it neglected to mention that he'd given up litigation and taking an active role in opposing AY, and disingenuously made it seem like he was still fighting on unchanged. But this sort of fact cherry picking is typical of his gigantic ego and lack of honesty throughout this process. Good riddance, DG.

Also, I'd just like to point out that there is very little fundamental difference between "affordable housing" and eminent domain. Both use govt intervention to extract wealth from private individuals to the benefit of other private individuals. One of the most hypocritical and bizarre aspects of the AY opposition was that it's largely comprised of socialist-minded leftwingers who across the boards support government power grabs and redistribution of wealth; until, apparently, the govt grabs something of their own.

In any case I look forward to the new development. It's a shame that the opposition has cost the project such time and money that the architectural merit of the project has had to be sacrificed, and I hope that by some miracle Ratner can find a way to still make the development economically feasible and architecturally interesting at the same time, something that would have been far easier had the project not been endlessly delayed. I predict the generation that grows up with the basketball team and the housing complex in its midst will come to cherish it and will laugh about how their parents thought it was so awful.

I don't think DG had this planned from the start but I have to wonder what he had planned if he had won?
What would his apartment be worth then?
Who would pay his legal fees after the courts found for him?
Who would compensate him for the lost income from putting career on hold to lead DDDB?
Winning would have been DG's worst nightmare.

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