bruce... where da jobs at?

Questionable construction materials, lies (he calls them promises), noise, rats, traffic clogging construction practices... yup, sounds like another "Quality is A-1" Ratner production

GO NETS!!!!!

Construction jobs and contracts are all about bidding, political favors, personal relationships and of course unions. I'm not taking a stance on unions here but the fact that local workers aren't working on that site has nothig to do with them getting into the union.

Out of state contractors regularly underbid local companies all over the US. That being said no one should make claims about how many local jobs will be created from a contract. Of course "they" all do. We the public should be aware of this and simply discount such estimates.

This is unfortunately business as usual. Fortunately, no matter what your opinion when complete the arena will provide hundreds of jobs for locals that span a wide spectrum of skill level, educational level, skill level, and pay grade.

One is a sucker if one believes that the above suddenly does not apply due to a CBA.

One can have a community benefits agreement, and have it mean different things to different people.

Profit still rules

Whether we like it or not, this project is at least four years late due to community opposition, lawsuits, pickets, protests, etc. etc.

Now you want to know where the jobs are?

If you want someone to blame, try looking in the mirror!

Had they simply said:

We are going to build an arena with public money, and it will generate huge profits for the developer

I would have respected and believed them.

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However, they said:

We are going to build an arena with public money, and it will give your community jobs, affordable housing and ponies that lay golden eggs.

and because of that I did not believe them, and I questioned the intelligence of those who did believe them.

If it makes you feel any better, Ratner (who expertly and consistently plays the part of "the jackass" in this story) was forced produce

a golden egg for Daniel Goldstein.

Making it among the few promises kept.

Mr. Druid- Can we get some artwork?

Did somebody say "fun house"?

....a sampling of some of Karl's prior work:

Rarely am I jealous of Nassau County, but I envy how the citizens got to vote on whether they wished to use public money for a new sports arena.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/hockey/2011-08-01-long-island-arena-ballpark-vote_n.htm?csp=34sports&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+UsatodaycomSports-TopStories+(Sports+-+Top+Stories)

They voted "no".

The people who will run Barclays Arena were likely happiest of all those in Nassau voted the referendum down.

On this aspect the Capt and I agree:

The Arena will be booked every night, and tremendously succe$$ful.

If I were the developers, I would think that I got a steal on an awesome location.

What's missing from the controversial development site? Not just the jobs and housing, says this writer, but the independent monitor required by the community benefits agreement.

lots more here

http://www.citylimits.org/conversations/150/an-independent-monitor-for-atlantic-yards

jobs are here, you just had to be part of the unionized labor pool years in advance of the dig. A couple of flag waivers. The guy in a wheelchair selling bottled water is one I have never seen in NYC construction history. Guys on Atlantic are effective in securing the sandwiches and coffee from across the street. As the iron workers get a little further concrete and Qdeck will follow. Deck electricians will again point to the correct locations for boxes that devices can be mounted on. This is skill void design.

The jobs are coming but it's all hot dogs and beer.