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Muggings on St. John's — Brooklynian

Muggings on St. John's

roux42
roux42
edited November -1 in Prospect Heights

Hello folks! Quick head's up!

One of the guys I work with told me there were two muggings near his building last week on St. John's between Plaza and Sterling. One was around 11pm, the other one much later.

With all the warnings about gropings, muggings and sexual attacks, why do I still see people wondering the streets late at night plugged into their music or chatting one their phones (no answer needed)?

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  • joeschmo
    joeschmo

    because we have the right to listen to music and talk on our phones.

    you must be related to the cops who tell women not to wear skirts that go above the knee.

    why do people still live on st. johns or even walk down that street; why do people still live in brooklyn?

    stay away from plaza st, and the feeders along st. johns and sterling and you'll be ok; or just move to the burbs.

  • tfb
    tfb

    I have to agree in joeschmo. When you live in a neighborhood, you don't want to live in fear. And most of the time, fear doesn't help. The best case scenario is that the mugger will overlook you and go on to the next most vulnerable looking person, but all the advice to not feel at home in your home isn't helping the neighborhood. Your questions blames the victims for trying to live normal lives. Maybe they just think that the quality of life cost of total vigilance at all times is a higher price to pay than the risk of assault.

  • jeffrey
    jeffrey

    joeschmo and Tfb,

    What you're suggesting is how many here would prefer to go about their daily lives and isn't really diminished by what roux mentioned above.

    roux is not proposing to walk in perpetual fear in a very reactive mode.

    Instead, it's all about preparation and advance awareness in a proactive mode by keeping in mind certain aspects of common sense.

    This isn't the countryside. Do you consider locking your apt/house doors at night or when you leave living in fear? This is the same thing. Urban common sense.

    Certain recurrent themes have been reported widely here and across other police precincts. Patterns have already been established of would-be thieves cruising darker mid-blocks after dark, looking for someone on their brighly-glowing smartphone/iPhone or someone with those obvious white earbuds or larger headphones that would indicate better equipment.

    That's undisputable.

    In fact, several on this board here (including myself) were actively involved in looking out for and reporting key description and current location details of one particular serial mugger that stalked Park Place, Vanderbilt, Prospect Place, Lincoln Place, Underhill, and St. Johns for *weeks*, several times per week, on his bmx bike.

    His m.o.? Ride slowly down the block looking for people distracted on their phones or earphones not using common street sense or aware of their surroundings.

    Planning ahead by not using phones and earphones walking down a dark block and keeping an eye out for one's surroundings is not living in fear.

    But ignoring all that and reacting to situations once they've happened is.

    This isn't about blaming the victim. It's about planning ahead.

    In the end, observe what's been proven to be common sense, decreasing odds considerably, and you won't have to live in fear.

    Simple as that.

  • architecture biscuit
    architecture biscuit

    Thanks for the heads up roux.

    I also second jeffrey's sentiments. Taking sensible precautions is not equivalent to blaming the victim or living in fear. When I'm crossing a street and I have the walk signal I still watch out for cars. I don't think I'm living in fear when I do that; it just seems like a sensible precaution knowing that some folks run lights or turn without yielding. Keeping expensive and conspicuous gadgets out of sight late at night on a stretch of road you know a mugger has been frequenting strikes me as essentially the same thing.

    Of course, it's your life and your stuff so do whatever you want with it.

  • anasara
    anasara

    Architecture Biscuit said:

    Taking sensible precautions is not equivalent to blaming the victim or living in fear.

    yup. don't be an idiot... it's not too difficult to forgo listening to mgmt during your ten minute walk from the subway.

  • ntfool
    ntfool

    anasara said:

    ... it's not too difficult to forgo listening to mgmt during your ten minute walk from the subway.

    HHHAAAAAAAAA-HAA ha haaaaa ha!

  • karl the druid
    karl the druid

    karl is always one hundred percent

    behind those with headphone

    it diminishes karl's chance of getting mugged

  • jack krohn
    jack krohn

    Do you mean St. Johns between Plaza and Underhill? Sterling and St. Johns run parallel to one another and do not intersect.

  • karl the druid
    karl the druid

    grand army vortex

    and environs

  • jack krohn
    jack krohn

    Karl, long time no speak. How's the chapbook going? Mr. Ratner eagerly awaits its publishing.

  • karl the druid
    karl the druid

    karl awaits your cro0wn heights affair

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