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Open Forum — Brooklynian

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pitu
pitu
edited November -1 in Site Issues
dakotas way,
please check your private messages
(top of the board, linked next to your Profile)

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  • dakotas way
    dakotas way
    OK. I've been chastised in a pm for writing in here. Thought it was for people interested in the area, not only living in the neighborhood.
    I didn't know it was a closed forum.
    I guess it was that I just found you all to be interesting people and valued your honest answers to difficult questions.
    But since I'm not supposed to be on, I'll leave.
    Oh....and to let you know, my grandmother grew up in Brooklyn Heights, so you could say I was a Brooklynite twice removed in my ancestry.
    Good luck, stay safe and be well.
    Dakota's Way...out. :-#
  • bojolais
    bojolais
    Dakato's Way,
    You have as much right to be here as anyone... This is NOT a closed forum. Pitu requested that you read your PM. I hope he or she didn't chastize you for participating...
  • daver
    daver
    editted to remove content from pre-split

    As far as dakota, I have no idea what you found in your PM box, but it is just that, a PM. One thing I have found in internet boards of all types over the years is that there are always a minority of people who are going to jump down your throat for anything and demand your resignation. Um, this doesn't really just apply to internet boards, BTW. But anyway, the point is, realize that just like in real life, you don't have to listen to what everyone says, and further that not everyone is saying the same thing. Gather what you can use and release that which you cannot. If you must go, then go, but recognize that you are in control, and going is _your_ choice, not the choice of an anonymous flamer on the internet.

    Having said that, I recognize that I am probably mischaracterizing the content of this specific PM, but it is for the purpose of making a more general point. Your mileage may vary.
  • dakotas way
    dakotas way
    The pm just relayed that the board is for neighbors and basically, my concerns about the shootings keep coming up and enough already.
    I guess I just can't stand the injustice of innocent people (and not only my daughter and her friends by any means) being hurt for just living somewhere because someone can't control themselves.
    And I can understand what she meant.
    Please let me tell you that I've lived in Jersey most of my life only 20 miles from NYC. And also lived through the 1967 riots in Newark and Plainfield which happened to be next door to my town at the time.
    That was some truly scary stuff....the cities burned and people died.
    And it made a huge impression on me.
    My Grandmother was mugged, pushed to the ground and injured at the age of 80 in Plainfield (30 years ago) with her pocket book being stolen. She went there to get her hair done because Plainfield had been a magnificent place decades earlier and she wasn't going to let anyone scare her from doing what she had done every Saturday for over 40 years.
    Imagaine, pushing a little 80 year old woman down to steal the few dollars she had.
    And so I suppose that is part of my outrage at the cowards that commit crimes.
    NYC has come a long, long way in the last 15 years or so and I applaud that people didn't curl up and hide during the chain snatching phase or the slashing phases. And those phases stopped because people stood up and said "No more" They took action and the criminal element took notice and were punished.
    I guess what I've been saying is that I hope everyone stands up (not that you haven't by any means) and the admistration and police stand up with you to say it has to end now.
    I guess it seemed that the resignation I was hearing on the board that yes, there are gunshots and they're not so bad and don't happen that often, is sad, because you don't deserve it.
    You deserve to live in peace and safety.
  • apollonia666
    apollonia666
    FYI, all, I've looked into this.

    The person who PM'd Dakotas Way did NOT tell her to leave the board.

    Instead, the PM pointed out that Dakotas Way has posted MANY times about her fears for her daughter, and despite people being very helpful in reaching out to her and reassuring her over and over, she continues to repeatedly post here in an alarmist way from afar whenever crime in the neighborhood is mentioned.

    The PM finally asked that she be more respectful of the people living here, after this post in which Dakotas Way said:
    dakotas way wrote: how the hell do you live there and feel at all safe and not violated by these completely self centered criminals????
    I can't help but see day after day lately there are shootings, stabbings, poor Mo in the deli that got his face beat in cause someone didn't like the results of a lottery ticket.
    ...
    How do you live there and not know that a stray bullet might not fly through your window or the one next to your child's bed??
    It's like the wild west..............
    In short, Dakotas Way was asked to please stop overreacting and cool it a bit. She was NOT asked to leave, nor was she told this is a closed forum.
  • dakotas way
    dakotas way
    OK Lets get this straight. The pm was sent Wednesday and the post you noted was on Monday April 23 right after the deliveryman was shot by a stray bullet while working.
    And I apologized for it. At least twice.
    But I have to ask, how do you know what the pm said if it's supposed to be a private message?
    I'm on your side Appollina and Pitu.
    And it did say it was for those in the neighborhood, not outside.
    And if you read the post above yours you would see that I am writing about how far NYC has come in the fight against crime and that you deserve peace and safety. And that it's not just in Brooklyn or NYC that these things happen at all.
    :idea: Bojolais and Daver, this is part of what was said about board participation in the pm:

    Brooklynian was set up as a neighborhood resource, NOT a general internet chat community.

    So OK. But all I have been saying is don't just accept the violence. What the heck were the 60's all about but forcing change for unacceptable behavior by people who squelched others independence and freedom to express themselves.
    They marched, they rattled the cages of society and they made people listen to what they were saying and why that behavior had to end.

    And so many opportunites opened up because of that for many minorities not only of race, but sexual preference as well.
    So it IS your neighborhood. Take it back is all I'm saying.
    :idea:
  • apollonia666
    apollonia666
    dakotas way wrote: But I have to ask, how do you know what the pm said if it's supposed to be a private message?
    I spoke with the person who PM'd you.
    dakotas way wrote: But all I have been saying is don't just accept the violence. What the heck were the 60's all about but forcing change for unacceptable behavior by people who squelched others independence and freedom to express themselves.
    They marched, they rattled the cages of society and they made people listen to what they were saying and why that behavior had to end.

    And so many opportunites opened up because of that for many minorities not only of race, but sexual preference as well.
    So it IS your neighborhood. Take it back is all I'm saying.
    :idea:
    What makes you think people here DO accept violence? You seem to assume that people here aren't doing anything to improve the neighborhood. We have regular reports from several people here who participate in community precinct hearings and other local citizens' groups. For example, I'm very much active in my building's tenants' association (which was formed primarily to deal with security and crime issues in my building), and I'm sure many others here are doing stuff as well. Most of us also have lives outside this board that are very busy and demanding and are still doing what we can.

    Please keep in mind that you're going to get a somewhat skewed view of what any place is like from a forum like this -- of course people will post here when they hear about a crime in the area, but you're not going to see many posts about when things are just fine the vast majority of the time. I know you mean well but frankly it chafes some folks a bit to have someone who doesn't live here or have the perspective of someone who does freaking out, implying that we must be nuts to live here (which you absolutely did in the post I quoted earlier), and lecturing us that because we're not out marching in the streets we're not doing enough.
  • dakotas way
    dakotas way
    You're right. :-#
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