stoop sale counterfeit $ scam-- beware
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After reading the above posts I checked the bills we got from our sale on the 3rd(Sterling nr Vand.) Thankfully, the 10 20's and 1 50 were all ok.
It does put a damper on the spirit of these sales, though. -
Ba wrote:
he didn't spend it. he tried to use it at a bodega, but they took the bill away from him. guess i should have explained.... took it away = did not accept it. told him it was fake, took it, and he paid with other real money.
To the poster above who received a fake 20 at dry cleaners in the neighborhood, your post was so not irrelevant!!
A friend of mine (lives and works in the neighborhood) recently got a fake $20 from somewhere near by since its basically the only place he spends his money. He's not a stoop sale goer though.
He didn't notice and tried to use it at a bodega that took it away.
On those many times that I pay with bills bigger than a $20 (not so much!), I'll probably check any I get.
vanilla wrote:
if he didn't notice and then spent it and the bill was accepted --- how did your friend come to the conclusion that it was indeed fake?! -
sarahb wrote: i am the person selling stuff w/ spec* who wound up with the counterfeit bills... upon further inspection this morning, i found out that we came away with THREE fake 20s. not cool!
I hope you report this all to the cops. Even if you can't get your money back, you can help prevent others from being victims.
what's more, i went up to a guy selling records on park place today to warn him about the scammer -- and he too had gotten a fake 20 yesterday. we agreed about who the guy was that did it.
moral of story: if you are having a stoop sale, check the bills you get. the fake 20s are obviously fake when held up against real 20s (they are slightly smaller, color a little off, paper is smooth) but seem real if you are not really paying attention. next time i will know! -
ok, simple use of counterfeit bills is probably not a federal crime (that is, i doubt its a strict liability crime), one would probably have to "knowingly" or "intentionally" use the counterfeit bills to be criminal.
interesting then, that many have presumed something "criminal" based on little more than (a) race, and (b) strange behavior (20s for small purchases/ leaving and returning/ returning with a friend).
i guess, i don't find it all that strange that someone would be unsure whether they want your junk, or, that after deciding your junk is interesting that they would invite someone else to check it out, or that they pay in twenty dollar bills.
...probably we shouldn't harass our neighbors (with camera phone pictures? really?). Assuming [any of you] consider this person a neighbor.
i would imagine it appropriate to hold the bill up to the light (right then and there, by the way, so the alleged criminal is right in front of you), but camera phone pictures (and spreading the resulting photos across the internet) seem inappropriate (after all, innocent until...). -
a month ago i returned some stuff at the home depot on spencer/dekalb in bed stuy. the kid gave me change and the next day i bought a slice of pizza at pepitone's (sp?) on dekalb/hanson and the guy took out a marker, drew on it and said it was fake.
it was a $10 bill this time around though. the only reason he would try that marker on me, i guess, is because it's close to brooklyn tech and a lot of the kids try and use fakes??
not sure.. -
blueafro wrote: interesting then, that many have presumed something "criminal" based on little more than (a) race, and (b) strange behavior (20s for small purchases/ leaving and returning/ returning with a friend).
I don't think your factor (a) entered into the whole thing as much as (b), at least to my reading of these posts. if the same thing had happened at a stoop sale I was involved in, I'd definitely be most suspicious of folks who came multiple times, especially if I had multiple bills, which was the case in this situation. I don't think that's drawing a bizarre conclusion - I think that's totally logical. it makes a lot more sense than someone buying $60 worth of stuff with fake money in one go. the whole point of counterfeiting money is to swap it out for real money, not to buy a used microwave. -
blueafro wrote: ok, simple use of counterfeit bills is probably not a federal crime (that is, i doubt its a strict liability crime), one would probably have to "knowingly" or "intentionally" use the counterfeit bills to be criminal.
Fair enough, but let's assume that it is criminal if the person paid with 3 (!) counterfeit bills.
Other ways to detect counterfeit money:
http://www.ustreas.gov/usss/money_detect.shtml -
Did anything else ever happen with this?
With a few big stoop sales going on this weekend -- the 3 block one on Prospect Place, me on Sterling and others -- let's watch out for the fake $ -
A week or two after I was scammed I was walking down Sterling and saw some folks setting up for a stoop sale. I stopped and warned them about what had happened to me with the fake 20's.
A few hours later I walked by again, and the stoop seller called me over to tell me that a guy on a bike had indeed come by and tried to buy something with a fake 20. Because of my warning, the stoop seller was being extra careful in scrutinizing every 20 he was handed. When he felt the paper on this particular 20 handed to him by the guy on the bike, he could tell that it was not real. The stoop seller said "I can't take this bill," the guy on the bike said "it's no good?" shrugged, and rode off. I think the stoop seller handed the bill back to the guy but I'm not sure. Anywho, that's all I know. -
Brooklynian wins!! We beat the bad guys!
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Track paper money here:
http://www.wheresgeorge.com/
I found a bill with the stamp on it for this web site. Kind of fun to see where your money has been.
(slow day at work fun!)
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