Question about crime

[quote="armchair_warrior"]I think if people put up job applications all over ph. the muggers would stay away. they be allergic to job applications. like garlic or kyrptonite.

(stole the idea from the boon docks)
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There's always a need for get away drivers

Subject: Re: Question about crime

I've been away for a while and have to say it's been GREAT to not have to be on guard all the time, and to be able to go out alone at night without hesitation. I feel like I have more freedom outside the city, although there are things I miss, too - like the food and cultural events.

We just came back from Kansas City, and there are signs on the front doors of all the restaurants "Please don't bring your firearms into these premises" ..ummmm

I was very glad to come home to Brooklyn

i also think the perception of crime being more than it is. cause we got blogs and places to write about it. in the past we used to wait for newspapers and tv to report it. alot of times they don't report small crimes.

More robberies and muggings: because that last mugging victim on the board DIDN'T CALL IT IN....

But seriously, cold weather makes some people desperate and cranky.
The others just look for shelter.
In the dead of winter though, it'll drop down- even thieves hate the cold.

Whatchuwant wrote: More robberies and muggings: because that last mugging victim on the board DIDN'T CALL IT IN....

This just in: I DID CALL IT IN.

This also just in: BECAUSE I DIDN'T SEE WHAT THEY LOOKED LIKE, I COULDN'T ID THEM.

This, amazingly enough, also in: THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY OF MULTIPLE GROUPS OF MUGGERS, AND THUS THE SOLE ONUS OF CATCHING ALL OF THEM CANNOT REALLY FALL ON ME.

Christ.

And also, how about this quote in the very same thread we're writing in:

primedawg wrote: I made a report, cops looked like they could give a dam.

Maybe, just maybe, police who don't appear to care, even in the face of over a dozen reported robberies in the area, also pose a problem.

ParadeRest wrote: Looks can be deceiving. How does the UPS man look when he brings your package? How does the gas station clerk look when you tell him,"30 bucks on pump 4"? Just because the cops didn't bring you balloons and a marching band doesn't mean that they don't care.

look dude your talking out of your ass I have friends whose parents are cops and I'm not stupid. I've dealt with pigs before and I know what they are supposed to be doing

they didn't take down the report they didn't file anything they didn't give me a case number

my landlord saw the whole thing I told them that she told them that she actually saw the 3 kids faces THEY DID NOT ASK HER ANYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!

do you understand do you want me to type this in french or any other language that you might understand.....please let me know so I can help you!!!!

their words "There is nothing to report since you didn't see anything!!!" mind you again my landlord did...

ParadeRest wrote: Looks can be deceiving. How does the UPS man look when he brings your package? How does the gas station clerk look when you tell him,"30 bucks on pump 4"? Just because the cops didn't bring you balloons and a marching band doesn't mean that they don't care.

If they cared, why didn't they take a report?

I had something similar happen to me. My apartment was broken into and the cops who showed up were laughing at some joke. It was OBVIOUS that they didn't care.

I insist on filing a report anyway.

I think that some cops are just lazy. Just tell them that you need to file a report for insurance purposes.

@ ParadeRest:
what were the details on the shooting on Franklin? when did that happen?

@anyone who has had the experience of reporting a crime to unresponsive cops:
this is EXACTLY the sort of thing that should be brought at the precinct council meetings AND/OR write up the incident, send it to DI Cosgrove and copy the commissioner and our elected officials. if you aren't vocal about it, nothing is going to change

next precinct council meeting:
Monday 12/10
St. Gregory the Great
991 Saint Johns Place
btwn Brooklyn & New York
7:30 PM

Restassured, you make very good points. These conditions you describe are in need of examination and changing but they have been around for a long time and everyone is well aware of them. There is still one very simple solution to not getting caught up in them - DO NOT MUG PEOPLE.

ParadeRest wrote: And by the way, the community council has absolutely no power over the New York City Police Dept.

i was not inferring that they did
i made the suggestion because the precinct council meetings are a public forum where grievances can get aired among people who have taken the time and energy to meet in an effort to support change in their community. this is how groups get formed who take action to change things.

the precinct council meetings are also a place where you can address the precinct personally and directly and ask for answers from the commanding officer. there are also usually representatives from the offices of our elected officials present (if not the officials themselves) who hear and take note of the issues that are brought up by the community.

people are always asking on this board: "what can i do about it"
well one answer is to go to meetings where there are people who have like minded concerns, network with them, find out what is already in place and what you can do to help. the precinct council is one place where people who have concerns about public safety issues and the conduct of the precinct gather.

btw, what happened on prospect & franklin and when?

primedawg wrote: [quote=ParadeRest]Primedawg, you have friends who's parents are cops? I have friends who's parents are doctors, teachers, photojournalists,and auto body mechanics. Do I know anything about surgical procedures, lesson plans, photographing news worthy events or painting cars? No I don't and I'm not a pig. Name calling is not neccesary and only degrades the conversation.

Prime, what were the circumstances of your mugging (which according to the NYS Penal Law doesn't exist)? Did they make off with any of your property? Did you sustain injuries? Where did this occur? Maybe you can send me a message with the names of the officers who were on the scene so that I can better understand the circumstances from your point of view and from theirs. IF they did in fact say,"there is nothing to report because you didn't see anything" and you were a victim of a robbery (by NYS PL def.) then I apologize for those officers and their incompetence. Police can be wrong, misinformed, lazy (or whatever else you want to call them) just like anybody else.

And by the way, the community council has absolutely no power over the New York City Police Dept.

When I said i have friends whose parents are cops I should have stated that I spoke to them because the whole process went down very sketchy like I was the one who mugged somone or did something wrong.

I don't recall the cops name its now thursday my girlfriend doesn't crecall either. I have lost faith in the polica...

as far as bodily harm my face looks like ROCKY after MR T got through with him. My body hurts and i'm covered in Ben Gay, oh and now my sholder makes a poping sound that I have never had before.

sorry for any misspelling have of my eye is shut


let me ask you why would cops need to know what my girlfriend and I do for a living I'm still puzzled about that?

Primedawg, this was robbery, assault and battery. You forgot to mention the beating in your first post. This is pretty serious and I'm surprised you didn't make the cops take a report or go down to the station when they wouldn't.

Why are you upset about the cops asking what you and your girlfriend do for a living? Shouldn't you be more upset about the lack of them taking a report for this crime in which you say you got seriously injured?

ParadeRest wrote:
let me ask you why would cops need to know what my girlfriend and I do for a living I'm still puzzled about that?

Maybe they were just trying to put you at ease by making small talk. It's also interesting to see what type of jobs the newer people in the community hold and where they used to live. I've seen a tremendous amount of public school teachers from the midwest who found their apartments on craig's list. (Quoted from KWAC:Police Officers are not required to take a complaint report from Crime victims. Often people do not won't to be bothered, don't want to see their assailants arrested, and sometimes their anger at the situation gets redirected towards the responding officers. Police are there to help, and when victims are uncooperative or uneccasarily hostile, this usually causes the Officers to move on to their next customer. As for them asking about you and your girlfriends occupation, it could have easily been a polite inquiry. Often Police do speak to people about other issues than their victimization.)

From the information that prime has given us, this is an assault 3. There is no such thing as battery unless you are refering to the little thing inside my phone. It's not a robbery because prime hasn't told us that they actually took anything from him. I find it amazing that there was nothing wrong with his eye when he told me that i was talking out of my ass but suddenly he can't see well enough to type.

You think the cops were sketchy but maybe they thought that your story was sketchy. After coming on a public forum and blasting the police for thier misdeeds you still haven't fully explained the details and circumstances of your encounter. If they didn't steal anything or try to steal anything it would seem rather strange that this group of guys randomly picked you to beat on for no reason. Maybe you weren't completely open about the incident when the police were there just like you aren't completely open about the incident on this thread.

So it's absolutely a robbery. I can't make excuses for other or explain their actions but I can recommend that you go into the precinct (hopefully bring your landlord) and make a report. If your landlady is cooperative then hopefully she can provide information about the pieces of garbage that victimized you. I can't fix or undo what already happened but this is really your best course of action from here.