New Thai on Washington / St. Marks - Udom - NOW OPEN!
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this place must be owned by chinese ppl.
case in point:
"pad see yue"
should really be pad see eew...
lol...they could at least try and perp as if they're thai... -
ltjbukem wrote: this place must be owned by chinese ppl.
Isn't the spelling using our alphabet kind of arbitrary, since Thai is written using its own alphabet? Not saying that they're Chinese or that they're not, just that the way they spell things using the Latin alphabet isn't proof one way or the other.
case in point:
"pad see yue"
should really be pad see eew...
lol...they could at least try and perp as if they're thai... -
you're right. in fact, i believe i'm wrong.
a google search for pad see yue yielded almost 70,000 entries,
while pad see eew yielded a paltry 2,770.
maybe they are thai. but my money's on them being chinese. -
As far as I know, unlike Vietnamese, there's no standard way to transliterate Thai to Roman, so you see a lot of variation. e.g. laap vs. larb vs. larp nua (raw), my favorite dish.
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translations is a art not a science. they try to get the closest sound as possible to what is what in their native language.
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thanks for posting the menu, violet. looks like a good selection. $6 lunch specials sound great. and i'm looking forward to the exceptional fried rice!
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Had the Rama Queen, Green Curry, and a salad. Food was terrible. The iceberg lettuce salad with congealed peanut "sauce" was inedible and was thrown out. Rama Queen was forgettable except for it being too sweet. Green curry was bland and the vegetables were not fresh. Maybe the apps are better. It was disappointing, but pretty much typical of most Brooklyn restaurants. For excellent prices, and delicious food, I'd stick with Joya or Song.
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people will accept such poor-caliber thai food. after eating at sripraphai, i can't fuck with the swill at most neighborhood places.
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young snitch wrote: people will accept such poor-caliber thai food. after eating at sripraphai, i can't fuck with the swill at most neighborhood places.
No question, Sripraphai is a whole different ballgame (see my comments on it here). But with no car, it's not an everyday kind of thing. With the exception of West Indian food and some of the high-end stuff like Garden Cafe, all of the local examples of most cuisines leave much to be desired. But we all want to support local businesses, right? -
i don't have any real affection for a newly-opened restaurant in the neighborhood -- well, at least not enough to spend any guap on mediocre food sheerly out of principle. the owners of the thai spot likely recognized an opportunity to profit off the changing demographics in the neighborhood (and i mean that in rational, economic terms, not derogatory). maybe i'm wrong.
if the neighborhood proves fertile ground for restaurants and bars, then obviously there will be more forthcoming. but if we're going to use a "greater good" argument, then the homogenization of the entire borough of brooklyn into a tapestry of thai eateries, coffee shops and dog-friendly yoga parlors just isn't that much of a priority to me. i don't own property, so i don't benefit from the original population being priced out.
i'd rather support a place like ginger root. -
young snitch wrote: i don't have any real affection for a newly-opened restaurant in the neighborhood -- well, at least not enough to spend any guap on mediocre food sheerly out of principle. the owners of the thai spot likely recognized an opportunity to profit off the changing demographics in the neighborhood (and i mean that in rational, economic terms, not derogatory). maybe i'm wrong.
You have a good point. However, these owners did choose to invest in the neighborhood, and their success affects other businesses around them too. More restaurants on Washington will actually help draw people to the block, benefiting everyone, including long-standing businesses. A place like Ripple, for example, would definitely benefit from Udom's success. And even if it's not great, it's still nice to have some other options for takeout.
if the neighborhood proves fertile ground for restaurants and bars, then obviously there will be more forthcoming. but if we're going to use a "greater good" argument, then the homogenization of the entire borough of brooklyn into a tapestry of thai eateries, coffee shops and dog-friendly yoga parlors just isn't that much of a priority to me. i don't own property, so i don't benefit from the original population being priced out.
i'd rather support a place like ginger root.
I also really doubt that Udom's presence on the block is going to have any impact on residential rental prices. -
i'm not sure ripple qualifies as a long-term establishment, but in their case, washington ave being a destination would be helpful (even although franklin is the future). but what about places with a less ubiquitously-beloved product? for businesses that cater to the exiting community, there seems to be a risk that the core customer base is being replaced by people with different tastes and needs. e.g. jerk chicken joints vs feline psychologists.
assuming there's something innately virtuous or worth keeping about a neighborhood's original composition, the influx of outside capital and investment probably trends negative for veteran businesses. i'm not arguing these businesses necessarily have any redeeming qualities, just trying to discern how far the concept of supporting local establishments extends. we do know mooney's can't afford the rent anymore, right? -
tangent:
(i'd love to support ginger root, but every time i try, it's closed. different, reasonable (i thought) times of day? what gives there?) -
Subject: LOVE THEM!
We tried Udom the other night, and we were beyond pleased.
I posted a while ago that I was a big fan of Mango. Well, after ordering from them at least twice a month for a year, I started to feel that they were slipping in the last few times we ordered. (green curry not as spicy as it used to be, super-duper oily basil fried rice, almost raw shrimp, longer waits for delivery, etc) Oh, Mango! * sigh *
But now I'm THRILLED with Udom! The woman who took my order on the phone was super-efficient and sweet. The food was delivered quickly by a gentleman who was also really friendly.
The food was all reeeally tasty. Golden Curry Noodles with shrimp was divine! So was the Spicy Eggplant with chilies, basil, garlic, bell peppers, and tofu. As I said in my post about Mango, I may not have lived in Thailand. I'm not an expert on the cuisine, but I do know flavorful, well-prepared food and good service when I encounter it. I can't wait to try more dishes! I may start ordering a few times a week! -
really? maybe it's just uneven because they just opened, but there's no way i can imagine the meal i had the other night getting anyone that excited.
was your spicy eggplant, you know, spicy? -
sweet tea wrote: was your spicy eggplant, you know, spicy?
Not as spicy as we would've liked it (nothing a little sambal from our fridge can't fix-- I tend to make everything I order from all restaurants spicier), but the dish was incredibly flavorful and nicely cooked. -
Young Snitch Wrote:
f the neighborhood proves fertile ground for restaurants and bars, then obviously there will be more forthcoming. but if we're going to use a "greater good" argument, then the homogenization of the entire borough of brooklyn into a tapestry of thai eateries, coffee shops and dog-friendly yoga parlors just isn't that much of a priority to me. i don't own property, so i don't benefit from the original population being priced out.
Welcome to New York, and pretty much any major city in the country. So you'd honestly rather that Washington Ave. consist of a string of hair salons, barber shops, and stores with bullet-proof windows, with nothing open at night? Not me.assuming there's something innately virtuous or worth keeping about a neighborhood's original composition, the influx of outside capital and investment probably trends negative for veteran businesses. i'm not arguing these businesses necessarily have any redeeming qualities, just trying to discern how far the concept of supporting local establishments extends. we do know mooney's can't afford the rent anymore, right?
New businesses have nothing to do with the fates of older businesses. In fact, competing and complimentary establishments are usually good for all businesses, new and old. It's up to existing owners to adapt or they will be forced to move. That's the game in New York and ProHI is no exception. The people who have moved into the neighborhood have drawn the new businesses in. Thousands more of these residents are coming and that is a trend that will not change any time soon. You should get used to it. -
Subject: Dinner at Udon? No Thanks.
Last night, based on the excited and favorable reviews on this site, my best friend and I had our first and last dinner at Udon. Disregard the tacky psuedo-hip interior; forget that the choking victim sign was in Chinese and not Thai, and that maybe it is a representation of their authenticity; be not concerned that the high language barrier between myself and the server rendered conversation near impossible; overlook that when a knife was requested that it came dirty, and when wiped off, how my napkin stuck to its sticky surface; block out the annoying and insufferable American Christmas music they were playing; forgive the inability to produce items listed on the menu, particularly the brown rice, which was advertised by the server to be "bad;" forgive that when the food is delivered by the same server who took the order that she cannot remember which of the two people at the table ordered the meat appetizer and which ordered the vegetarian appetizer, and you can sample their substandard food.
The mango salad was by no means as decoratively prepared or palatable as that of Mango Confusion in the Slope. The overly sweet and bitter lemon dressing tasted as though it had been flavored with melted Lemon Heads candies. My dining partner's Massaman Curry was more like chicken soup with a chunk of potato or two. At least his glass of ice cubes had the color and taste of Thai Iced Tea. My vegetarian (D)Rama Queen meal was cold, hard, covered in diluted Jiffy peanut butter, and inedible. It was as flavorless as the food at India Place on Gloria Vanderbilt Avenue is overly and unsophisticatedly spiced (but perhaps not as awful).
I could have eaten the same cold raw vegetables with more satisfaction and predictability at home, but wanted to hang out with my dear dining companion and support a neighborhood restaurant. We'll be going elsewhere before returning here. -
Subject: Re: Udom is Good
cjloft wrote: I just had Udom deliver. They were more than happy to bring us delivery to New York and St. John's. And it was delicious! They know how to do a good pad thai. Better than many pad thais I've had in the city.
The next test will be PLG. I have my fingers crossed and hope to see them later this week. -
As an fyi, I heard the other day that The Islands restaraunt is moving to Washington Avenue and Prospect from their current location of Washington between Eastern Parkway and Lincoln.
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Subject: udom
i got delivery from udom, and thought the udom basil with beef was great. the pad thai, dumpling, and spring roll were just ok though (but i liked the pad thai more when i reheated it the next day).
then i went in for dinner. i had the chicken and shrimp dumplings with peanut sauce, the lemongrass tom yum, the stripe bass chili, and the spicy basil noodles, and it was awesome. really a great meal. the striped bass was cooked perfectly, and the noodles were amazingly delicious (and so cheap!). i really like the place. -
I just got delivery from Udom! (to Crown Heights)
They delivered all the way to Kington & St. Johns for a $20 minimum.
I can't say it's the best thai I've ever had, but the curries were quite good.
I ordered:
fresh spring rolls - decent, but below average with a hoisiny licoricey sauce
papaya salad - good with a decent portion
green curry with tofu - good, sweeter than average
red curry with chicken - good and flavorful
I am looking forward to ordering from them again! -
Went last night...
Very greasy Pad Thai. I will try their garlic chicken next time. Decor looked cool from outside, but had some cheapish details inside... money would have been better spent on lighter cooking oils. Good service, and they gave a 20% discount for me and the lady as they are still doing the grand opening. Still though, it would only have been $25 for the two of us w/o the discount...
I will prob. go back eventually... -
We were delighted that a Thai placed opened in the neighborhood, and ordered on the second night they opened.
The food was ok, however the portions were tiny. My husband ordered the pork chops...it was one small chop, and no veggies. Lemongrass has 3 and lots of veggies. We had friends over and when we opened up the order everyone just laughed at the portion sizes. We ended having to order additional Chinese.
Please tell me this was an isolated incident, we really want to support local businesses. -
Subject: Neighborhood Thai
Last week, within the space of 7 days, I ate at Udom, Mango and Lemongrass. I thought Udom was okay. I had a chicken green curry dish and it was quite tasty. The sauce with the summer roll was unctuous. My kids had chicken pad thai and were happy with it. But then, they're kids. Looked pretty greasy to me. Few days later went to Mango, where my daughter again had pad thai and loved it. As always, was super sweet and heavy heavy heavy grease there. I enjoyed my ginger chicken -- not too sweet and nicely ginger-y. Also the cocktail was lovely. Couple of days later at Lemongrass with my other daughter, had my favorite Flamed Water Spinach -- soooo delicious, should have made a meal just out of that. Daughter ordered (what else) chicken pad thai and I was amazed at how huge the portions were at Lemongrass. Pad Thai was still sweet but not as greasy as at Mango or Udom. But the portions were by far the largest of the 3 restaurants and seemed meant for at least 2 people each. Udom and Mango have about same size portions, and they seemed modest but decent in size. -
we finally tried it tonight and agree with most of the previous posts. glad to have thai nearby, and it's not bad but wish it were better. what we had was definitely at least as good as the other park slope options although not nearly as good as lemongrass used to be in its day (before it changed owners or chefs or died of unknown causes).
vegetable spring rolls were tasty but greasy. vegetable dumplings were fine, a bit doughy with no particularly discernible flavors inside, no better or worse than those from area chinese restaurants. pad thai was just fair: sauce was definitely too sweet and gluppy, noodles were overcooked and there were no ground peanuts or bean sprouts to mix in. i thought those were a standard part of the dish. the basil udom vegetables and tofu was, unlike the pad thai, flavorful but it too suffered from an overly thick sauce that muddied the flavors instead of, as good thai does, letting each one shine out. the jasmine tea came in small mugs with tea bags instead of a pot. the waitrons came back several times to offer to pour more lukewarm water in our mugs with the used tea bags, a lovely thought but not, unfortunately, the way to make tea. i've never been to thailand but i have to assume that's not the way they do it there.
finally, the hip decor wouldn't have been worth commenting on if the food had been superb. but as it was, it stuck out as a case of misplaced priorities. i'd rather eat in a hole in the wall where someone knows how to cook than in a slick-looking place that's only fair.
we'll be back. it's still as good as any thai in the neighborhood. but that's a sad commentary. -
Subject: Udom Update?
We think that Udom might have gotten better recently. Has anyone else noticed a change? (We get delivery to Kingston near Atlantic.)
We usually ask that spicy dishes be "very, very spicy" and lately the spice has been almost hot enough. Also, I think that the portions are quite a bit larger, too.
I like their little corn cakes (appetizer menu) and the fried tofu was fine. I could still take or leave the dumplings.
We don't think that the Pad Thai is great (ours has come with peanuts and sprouts, at least) but we really like the noodles with Chinese broccoli (pad see yue), and the red dried curry noodles (the curry has an odd, hard to describe except maybe as "musty" taste to it, but I like it more and more). The string beans (with the same dried curry sauce) and the ginger vegetables (mmm!) are both lovely. I've recently been really enjoying their mock duck salad - it's sweet (maybe just a tiny bit too sweet) and tangy and really yummy.
A meat-eating friend recently had the green mussels and loved them, and really enjoyed his pad see yue (with beef), too.
And of course, the people are all sweet and helpful. Has anyone else ordered lately and been happier than with past orders? We're so glad that they deliver to us! -
we just ordered a few days ago. no noticeable changes in my book. it wasn't bad, but the sauces were still too gluppy and sugary.
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ok, i ordered from here tonight. the duck salad? not duck!! it's totally chicken. plus it tastes like it has cold italian spagetti sauce on it! why? ugh can it really be this hard to have good thai in brooklyn? i need to move back to queens.
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Zombie thread!
I jabbered with one of the restaurant workers tonight, she informed me that the staff recently marked this location's 6th Anniversary!
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