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ehgee said:
Now that we have bikeshare, hopefully we can redirect these young men to safer and more responsible forms of sick wheelies:
While not able to compete with the thrill and risk of riding an unlicensed, motorcycle or quad on busy city streets, it still looks like fun!
A BMX bike course on a Brooklyn construction site:
http://www.brownstoner.com/blog/2013/06/closing-bell-dirt-bike-track-going-in-domino-site/
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Sadly the BMX park is just temporary.
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Note:
These guys were out in mass this weekend, but they are not the same as the aforemententioned ones whom ride around on quads and dirt bikes, without helmets, doing wheelies and in public parks:
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These folks aren't the same either: http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20130729/east-new-york/sisterhood-of-lady-riders-growing-force-citys-motor-clubs
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The NYPD has been seizing lots of illegal ATV and dirt bikes in The Bronx.
Perhaps we could get whoever coordinated this effort to work in Brooklyn next year?
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/bronx/nypd-puts-flat-tire-atvs-dirt-bikes-article-1.1457617
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It sounds like some residents of Red Hook would appreciate the effort as well:
http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20131008/red-hook/atvs-dirt-bikes-wreak-havoc-red-hook-residents-say
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Washington Heights is having its share of problems with off road motorcycles (aka dirt bikes) as well:http://dnain.fo/1fs7x5d
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A cop recently tried to stop a ATV that was being operated in ENY, and was dragged.
http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20140304/east-new-york/suspect-cleared-of-dragging-police-officer-behind-atv
It should be interesting to see how the police address the issue now that the weather is again warming up, and unauthorized vehicles become more common.
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If past experience is any indication, they're going to address the issue by going after law-abiding motorcyclists that have nothing to do with it.
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I suspect you are correct.
As the city gentrifies, it will have less tolerance for 14 year old, shirt-less, helmet-less youth riding ATVs and dirtbikes around Grand Army Plaza, and up and down Fulton Street and Eastern Parkway.
I witnessed each several times last summer. -
Something I figured out a while ago was that in neighborhoods like this, cops prefer to stop and ticket older, seemingly law-abiding people rather than going after youngsters (mostly guys) that may actually be up to something. Stopping the guy on a cruiser with plates means you can issue a ticket but he won't try and run away, causing you to have to chase him. Pulling over the woman in her car with four kids for putting on her seat belt as she pulls away from the curb is a much better bet than stopping the two guys driving down the street with the bass cranked up, windows down, weed smoke billowing and out of state plates.
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Yes, if you have a quota, there is no need to reach it the hard way.
...stopping a juvenile is also fraught. They often don't fear death (if you chase them and they crash into a pole it looks bad), and even if they pull over nicely, the cop may have to arrange for them to be released to their parent. This means the cop is useless for the rest of the shift.
Meanwhile, an adult without a helmet and motorcycle lic can just be given a DAT.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desk_appearance_ticket
And, the cop is only out of service until a flatbed truck arrives to bring the bike to impound. -
The NYPD says it isn't fooling around anymore:
---> Asked if they were waiting for dirt-bike riders, an officer in an unmarked black S.U.V. said, “That’s exactly what we’re doing.”
Sunday’s colder weather might have deterred bigger groups, said the officer, who declined to give his name. “But you never know,” he said. “We’re ready to pounce.” <---.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/10/nyregion/warm-weather-brings-out-banned-vehicles-and-officers-pounce.html?ref=nyregion -
I hope they have more than one car per stakeout. Last summer I was driving on Rockaway when the cops caught up with a group of motorcyclists/ATV riders at the corner of Kings Highway. It was like a chase scene from The Benny Hill Show. There was one patrol car practically driving in circles while the bikers were going every which way around them -- including up onto the concrete medians and out into the intersection. It seemed impossible that the cops would actually catch one of them, and the chase was making things much more dangerous for pedestrians and other drivers.
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Nothinlike-
Are you referencing the nypd skateboard video?
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Unlicensed Harlem Biker Gang vs NYPD
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I'm glad the NYPD is making, at least a some token, effort to confront this. Between this and the double parking tickets could things finally be changing at One Police Plaza?
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When they advertise that people should use the Crimestoppers number to anonomously report where the dirt bikes and ATVs "live" in exchange for a reward, I'll perceive them as doing all they can.
They probably can't go on private property yo get them, but they might be able to just wait for them to come home after they play. -
This dirt bike rider in the Bronx managed to kill himself and injure two others, as he attempted to pass a car making a left turn.http://gothamist.com/2014/03/22/dirt_bike_rider_killed_while_trying.php
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As you once said there is the old and the bold. Sadly this guy injured two innocent people on his way out.
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This man only killed himself:"A young man performing a stunt on a dirt bike was killed when he collided with a car and a box truck in East Harlem Tuesday afternoon, officials and witnesses said.http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20140506/east-harlem/biker-hurt-east-harlem-crash-officials-say
Shamel Jefferson, 28, was performing a wheelie up Third Avenue near East 105th Street about 12:45 p.m. when he clipped a red four-door sedan making a left turn onto 105th Street, witnesses and police said." -
Our Pct is getting good at trapping these guys without insurance on dirt bikes. Last summer they set up snares and bagged a couple to impound. which ended one group that was on Nostrand at the time. They chased them down Park Place into waiting cops near Brower pk.
I would like to hear anyone who knows what does the law say about the muffler noise we have to tolerate from these bikes. Of course the noise tells everyone where they are which is good to catch.
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You may enjoy a trip to Red Hook.Take Van Brunt St to the end.Buy ice cream at Fairway.Then, walk out on the long pier that is on the left of Fairway. From the end, you will get an excellent view of all of the motorcycles in the NYPD impound lot. Many of them are illegal dirt bikes.You'll find the location is crowded with people enjoying views of the Statue of Liberty, but that can be seen from lots of locations around the city.
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My neighbor is a motorbike hobbiest who teaches his son how to wheelie. Interesting father son bonding, unfortunately it is on the sidewalk!
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I was on a tour of NY Harbor with a bunch of high school kids a few weeks ago. The thing they got the most excited about? The dirtbike collection in the impound lot. A few of them even pledged to go online and see when the next auction was coming up to try and get a bike for cheap.
Ah, the NYC circle of life... -
I do wonder how often the average NYC dirt bike and quads have done the circle:Seized,Sold at NYC auction to a bulk buyer,Sold by the bulk buyer for a few hundred bucks to a teen without a high school diploma, or a M/C license, in a low income neighborhood,Ridden illegally on the streetsSeized...
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The new NYPD Comissioner seems to know that this is an issue that the public would like addressed:
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2014/06/08/citywide-crackdown-nets-13-illegal-motorcycles-dirt-bikes/
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Thirteen gone leaving hundreds more including the group of at least six that mounted the sidewalk at Nostrand and Eastern at around 7:30 on Saturday to get around traffic stopped at the light. But at least they're doing something.
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I think the picture used in the above article is from the Brooklyn lot discussed above, but could be from one of the others.
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