No Qual. Coffee - Many Hipsters - Vacant Storefronts - Kingston Ave btw St Marks and Pacific

I am having a hard time figuring out if OP is indeed sincere or trolling, especially judging from their older posts..

http://www.brooklynian.com/discussion/45192/central-crown-heightslower-bed-sty-sub-way-station-the-pits-c-train/p1


P.S. Buy your own whole coffee beans and make your own coffee.  It saves money and is a fantastic morning routine.

I am just glad I gave up my habit of trying to count the coffeeshops.

Of all my habits, that was the one most likely to kill me.

As a coffee shop owner I can tell you that Kingston Ave is very interesting. I personally cannot see myself opening a shop there because the foot traffic is not there to support a fully staffed shop. If I wanted to open a shop and run it with me and my wife it would def work. As a couple or owner operator type of biz model Kingston would work. Who ever decides to do just remember the NYCDOH also comes for their monthly cut.

What's the going rate for an "A" these days?

It is a little different.

They are carrying laptops and tablets.

Certainly.

They are also mumbling something about "coffee", as opposed to "brains".

Their attire is often better than ripped clothing.

i for one find these posts kind of entertaining. it puts me in mind of the fabled manhattan-to-crown heights transplant real estate fiscal reports have talked so much about

This is like a cri de ceour, for the sake of coffee.

I am having a hard time figuring out if OP is indeed sincere or trolling, especially judging from their older posts..

This reminds me of a blog post from a few years ago: Will Espresso Save Bed-Stuy?

To be fair to the original poster, I have seen that getting that first shop (of the newbie hipster kind) in any area usually takes longer than need be as business owners are less likely to take a risk. They wait until someone does it first. Once there are a couple, then the number of places start multiplying faster (see Franklin south of EP, Rogers, Nostrand, PLG). I agree with the sentiment that if you build it they will come. Instead, they often make the mistake of opening in an area that is already saturated and expensive, hence the high turnover of businesses in prime Crown Heights due to competion and high rents. Often the pioneers of those neighborhoods who did take the risk do well (e.g. Little Zelda). They last longer due the lower rents they secured in the beginning and loyalty from initial customers.

Take Midwood Flats. Always packed because it is the only place like it in the area. Probably paying much lower rent than if they decided to open on Franklin north of EP. And then take Pacifico Fine Foods. Despite popularity, great reviews, and excellent location, couldn't survive the rent and competition.

Just my two cents.

@Suppleknuckles -
You seem to be thinking about south of EP.

We are discussing this area. http://goo.gl/maps/BDf5F

The businesses have not yet turned over. Most will likely not have the combination of capital and skills required to adapt to the new demands of the new neighbors, and may be wondering why business is declining.

Business is declining in part because their former customer base is no longer present.

When the businesses come up for rent renewal, the rents will be much higher. Many of them will close.

The uninfomed or casual observer will conclude the the "economy" is doing poorly, when in reality, quite the opposite is occurring for those who own property and those who meet the new means and preferences.

the end.

Wanna meet up at Capitoline Grounds?  We can discuss which brands of mustache wax are the most sustainable over a cup of D'Amico coffee and a delicious breakfast croissant.  Heck, maybe if things go well, we can discuss investment plans for a bespoke cafe of our own!

If we have our way, Kingston Ave will have the best stroller: white coffee cup ratio this side of Smith St!  Arcade Fire and Black Keys for all, we don't discriminate.