South of EP: The church at Rogers between Carrol and Crown is torn down. Residential on the way

Rick656 said:

@Rick656 You're making a presumption about where people would want to live and feel supported.  In placing homeless in shelters, the city goes by the last neighborhood of residence stated on a census.  Many of them happen to have last lived in Crown Heights.   

True, but who actually gets to live where they want to live in NY? I would like to live in a penthouse overlooking Central Park (or Prospect Park), but I can't afford it so I live in CH.

By this logic, you're actually advocating for further concentration of these services in lower-income neighborhoods, but instead of CH, you're talking Brownsville and East New York

Rick656 said:

@Rick656 You're making a presumption about where people would want to live and feel supported.  In placing homeless in shelters, the city goes by the last neighborhood of residence stated on a census.  Many of them happen to have last lived in Crown Heights.   

True, but who actually gets to live where they want to live in NY? I would like to live in a penthouse overlooking Central Park (or Prospect Park), but I can't afford it so I live in CH.

By this logic, you're actually advocating for further concentration of these services in lower-income neighborhoods, but instead of CH, you're talking Brownsville and East New York

No. My whole point is that shelters should be evenly and fairly distributed in all neighborhoods. The response to that point was that we can't do that because homeless people want to live near there last known address, which is more likely to have been in CH (not BH). My most recent comment was that, like everyone else, homeless don't get their top choice location and may have to live in what they may consider to be a less desirable location like Brooklyn Heights so that there is equitable distribution of shelters in all neighborhoods, not only in neighborhoods like CH, Brownsville, East NewYork.

@Rick656 -- my sense of the reason why people are moving into shelters rather than moving to cheaper neighborhoods are that rents in even cheaper neighborhoods like ENY and Brownsville and the Bronx are beyond their ability to pay. Rents in the cheaper neighborhoods have gone up a lot, too, compared to the wages of people living their or wishing to relocate there. From what I hear from people who have been evicted or are leaving voluntarily in search of cheaper rents, the rent in ENY or other neighborhoods is about the same or even higher for what they had in CH before the landlord stopped accepting Section 8 or raised the rent or de-regulated the apartment. Lower middle class people who can move to a new apartment on their own are doing it. It is the people working minimum wage jobs, or are suffering unemployment, who end up in shelter after they lose their apartment, and who don't have $2,000 or $3,000 saved up to pay for a first month/last month deposit on a new place. It's expensive to move, and requires savings. 

The Patch author Marc Torrence has a flair for the dramatic. 

"...they demanded to know why they hadn't been told about a project that could completely transform their neighborhood."  

Am I interpreting the below quoted statement correctly?  The number of shelters in the CH area will be reduced by 15.

"Slated to open in May, the city has said 267 Rogers Ave. will be one of four shelter sites operating in the area by year’s end, down from a total of 19 sites open in the beginning of 2017."

https://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20170407/crown-heights/267-rogers-ave-public-meeting-housing-homeless-shelter

@doughmane you are correct, at the initial meeting on Crown St, the city is planning on shutting down shelter sites that are essentially beyond repair and replacing them with separate facilities like this. So, sites in the area like 60 Clarkson (noted hellhole, incredibly corrupt) will be shut down and replaced with fewer but ideally higher quality shelters.

Has there been talk of litigation like the litigation going on for the Bedford Ave site?

They've started to furnish the third floor of the building, the apartments facing crown street. Some of the rooms have two single beds, others have bunk beds. The beds also have pillows and blankets on them. Looks like they are getting reading for a demo of what it will look like.

I hope they put curtains or blinds up for the homeless families. I would not expect them to be bringing big curtains with them.

These are families that are transitioning to more permanent housing?  So in other words, they have an income and are ready to be more independent after the stint at this place is done?

News crew was there last night to do a view of the place. I don't know the station, but talked briefly to the anchor man.

Saw some blinds going up today. Yay. Does anyone know what is happening to the 20% of tenants who will be leaseholders via the affordable housing lottery process? When do they move in?