Elementi

That doesn't bode well...

Bring back Snooky's!

Carnivore wrote: That doesn't bode well...

Ditto.

You might be getting warm.

ok... I might be spreading a false rumor but I did hear this one from a half way reliable source.
How about a kosher restaurant with catering facility on 2nd level?

If "a kosher restaurant" means a deli, with kreplach soup, corn beef, stuffed derma etc etc., then I'm all for it.

It could quickly become my favorite neighborhood restaurant (although I'd probably have to blindfold mrs. booklaw to get her there).

How about a kosher steakhouse? Score! :cheers:

Okay but Kosher restaurants tend to be expensive due to all the specialty foods and preparation. I recall a decent kosher (or maybe kosher style) deli on 7th Ave that was somewhere in the neighborhood of the old Purity. It only lasted about a year. And that (atrocious) kosher pizza place on the corner of 6th St lasted maybe half that. Of course they had other issues, like the food sucked. That said, if a new place that knows how to pile up real lean kosher corned beef on rye and serve it with a pickeled tomato... - count me in.

Blue Cat.. I think the places you mentioned were here before their time. Of course, if the food is terrible there IS no time for that. But, what people may not be aware of is that there is a "kosher" community that is here, living in PS right now and of course... you don't have to be Jewish to crave a corned beef sandwich or a bowl of homemade matzoh ball soup or a superior knosh.

OK.. I convinced myself! If this restaurant is just a rimour that I started then someone SHOULD open this fantasy place or I should get some investors together and do it myself.. cause I know how to cook most of things that I would order in that kind of restaurant any but I am too lazy to make them at home most of the time.

Choped liver, anyone?

booklaw wrote: If "a kosher restaurant" means a deli, with kreplach soup, corn beef, stuffed derma etc etc., then I'm all for it.

This!

veets wrote: Choped liver, anyone?

Absolutely!

I can't think of a kosher deli this side of Bensonhurst. And I have my doubts that it can survive on 7th Ave, but I hope someone will give it a go. Does anyone know of a good one nearby?

Jamzer wrote: You might be getting warm.

And here I thought I was the tease.

No kidding.. someone told me that some orthodox people did look at the space but now that I started the rumor... I don't think this is the direction the place will go.

If you want a good corned beef sandwich go to Manhattan and eat at Katz's.. and bring home half a sandwich to PS for me cause they are too big to eat the whole thing anyway.

veets wrote: No kidding.. someone told me that some orthodox people did look at the space but now that I started the rumor... I don't think this is the direction the place will go.

If you want a good corned beef sandwich go to Manhattan and eat at Katz's.. and bring home half a sandwich to PS for me cause they are too big to eat the whole thing anyway.

I have never not finished a sandwich at Katz's. Carnegie Deli sandwiches are bigger- I could see not finishing one of those, but Katz's are better, and easy to finish, even when you tip the carving guy. I always go for the pastrami though, not corned beef.

In Brooklyn, I like Mill Basin Deli, but Katz's is actually closer.

Carnivore wrote: [quote=veets]No kidding.. someone told me that some orthodox people did look at the space but now that I started the rumor... I don't think this is the direction the place will go.

If you want a good corned beef sandwich go to Manhattan and eat at Katz's.. and bring home half a sandwich to PS for me cause they are too big to eat the whole thing anyway.

I have never not finished a sandwich at Katz's. Carnegie Deli sandwiches are bigger- I could see not finishing one of those, but Katz's are better, and easy to finish, even when you tip the carving guy. I always go for the pastrami though, not corned beef.

In Brooklyn, I like Mill Basin Deli, but Katz's is actually closer.

I always thought mill basin deli was over rated. Katz's though really is the best. If you don't like the chunky hand cuts and prefer the slicing machine 2nd avenue deli is pretty good too.

I was at Mill Basin Deli yesterday. It's indeed over rated. Katz's and David's Brisket are the only ones I like in all five boroughs. And I've been to them all. Adelman's, Jay & Lloyd's, Carnegie, Ben's. Stage, Sarge's, Pastrami Box, etc. They mostly reheat the ole Hebrew National or Empire slabs of meat.

Park Slope had two kosher style delis. One on 7th Ave by Union (I forget the name) and Bellamellio on 7th Ave and 1st, where the newsstand is. Otherwise, you had German delis such as Durell's and Berkeley Meats selling really good corned beef.

R.I.P. Bellamellio! It was the very best shop in the Slope.

Idlewild wrote: I was at Mill Basin Deli yesterday. It's indeed over rated. Katz's and David's Brisket are the only ones I like in all five boroughs. And I've been to them all. Adelman's, Jay & Lloyd's, Carnegie, Ben's. Stage, Sarge's, Pastrami Box, etc. They mostly reheat the ole Hebrew National or Empire slabs of meat.

Park Slope had two kosher style delis. One on 7th Ave by Union (I forget the name) and Bellamellio on 7th Ave and 1st, where the newsstand is. Otherwise, you had German delis such as Durell's and Berkeley Meats selling really good corned beef.

The key point you bring up is that most places don't actually make their own meats anymore and use one of a very few wholesalers as their suppliers. It's all about how it is steamed and cut once it gets to the deli.
But then again, 50 years ago there were proabably 500-1000 jewish delis in the city and now there are maybe 12.

Here a good, somewhat dated article on pastrami:

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/04/30/dining/30PAST.html?pagewanted=print&position=

Idlewild wrote: I was at Mill Basin Deli yesterday. It's indeed over rated. Katz's and David's Brisket are the only ones I like in all five boroughs. And I've been to them all. Adelman's, Jay & Lloyd's, Carnegie, Ben's. Stage, Sarge's, Pastrami Box, etc. They mostly reheat the ole Hebrew National or Empire slabs of meat.

Park Slope had two kosher style delis. One on 7th Ave by Union (I forget the name) and Bellamellio on 7th Ave and 1st, where the newsstand is. Otherwise, you had German delis such as Durell's and Berkeley Meats selling really good corned beef.

Pastrami Queen on the UES is actually quite good.

Ugh, forget Mill Basin Deli! We prefer Mendy's on Coney Island Avenue

What's with all the Mill Basin Deli hate? I admit I haven't been back in a few years. Has it gone downhill that much?

I hear Mendy's om CIA went through a rehab and it's not bad. The last time I went, about a year ago,it was pretty piss poor. I will try it again.

Mill Basin hasn't really changed. It's Lubavitcher owned, Empire supplied. IE, it's like most of the Brooklyn kosher delis. However, I did have a slice of their sugar-free lemon chiffon cake and I have to tell you, it's pretty frigging delicious.

It is my fault but I think this thread needs to be divided. The end of the postings about delis is more interesting than the fate of Elemente! Lol!

well hanson100's post just needs to be deleted by mods.

lol!

Idlewild wrote: I hear Mendy's om CIA went through a rehab and it's not bad. The last time I went, about a year ago,it was pretty piss poor. I will try it again.

Mill Basin hasn't really changed. It's Lubavitcher owned, Empire supplied. IE, it's like most of the Brooklyn kosher delis. However, I did have a slice of their sugar-free lemon chiffon cake and I have to tell you, it's pretty frigging delicious.

Was it Mendy's when you went a year ago or was it still Essex On Coney then? Because the Essex On Coney was there and then they moved, then Mendy's moved in

It was Mendy's. I went there when it was Essex as well.

I liked Elementi. My wife and I had a few nice meals there but Roy, the guy who I thought owned it, was suuupppper nice to us. Made our meals fantastic and really catered to us. Maybe it was due to a lack of business but we felt well taken care of and liked the food. We were both sad to see that it closed. :-(

kosherdave wrote: I liked Elementi...We were both sad to see that it closed. :-(

Good luck...I Hope you are wearing your flame proof clothes.

kosherdave wrote: I liked Elementi. My wife and I had a few nice meals there but Roy, the guy who I thought owned it, was suuupppper nice to us. Made our meals fantastic and really catered to us. Maybe it was due to a lack of business but we felt well taken care of and liked the food. We were both sad to see that it closed. :-(

I liked it too. We had a couple of good meals there. Never had a problem.