Parking lot on St. John's to become apartments

Yes, but they try to find apartments is areas zoned for very good public schools.

I know of one set of 'em in CH very well—they live in our two-bedroom apartment, with one toddler. The elementary schools are pretty good around here, at this current moment. 

This building will feature 38 two bedrooms.

564 St Johns

Now revealed

Pan of the site

https://www.cityrealty.com/nyc/market-insight/features/future-nyc/brawny-crown-heights-rental-nearly-finished-bring-200-rentals-gentrifying-hood/12764 "There will be 193 apartments in all, comprised of 19 studios, 136 one-bedroom units, and 38 two-bedrooms. Per the floor schedule filed with the city’s building department, there will be 96 parking spaces, outdoor and indoor recreation spaces and a laundry room. There will be 7 apartments on the first floor and between 24 and 28 units on the floors above." photos from above site.

Listing agent is ready

Looks like a nice building, but somewhat disappointed that there's no ground floor commercial space. Anyone know why some new buildings include commercial and some don't? Are there regulations governing building commercial space or is it entirely developer preference?

The zoning code allows for some lots to have first floor commercial, but not others. In some instances the type of commercial is specified. For example, some buildings can only have a "professional space": Such as a doctor's office, or a daycare.

whynot_31 said:

The zoning code allows for some lots to have first floor commercial, but not others. In some instances the type of commercial is specified. For example, some buildings can only have a "professional space": Such as a doctor's office, or a daycare.

Oh, interesting. Thanks, Whynot_31.

Listings now posted http://streeteasy.com/building/564-st-johns-place-brooklyn

quote: Situated in a brand new full service building, you will have access to amenities such as: * Landscaped rooftop terrace with grilling areas, lounge areas, putting green, chess board, and a stunning view of the New York City skyline * Media/screening room * Business lounge * Separate conference room/library * Private party room * Private building garden * Pet spa * State-of-the-art health and fitness center * Locker rooms * Yoga room * Sauna * Children's play room * Storage units * Recording studio * Two large bike rooms So the sky is truly the limit when it comes to making this home your own. Designed by world-renowned architect Karl Fischer, this distinguished home features wide plank hardwood flooring, southern exposures that flood the space with natural light, a massive living area, a beautifully appointed bathroom complete with marble finishes and luxurious soaker tub, in-unit laundry, and a kitchen equipped with top of the line Blomberg appliances.

On this map, the crosshatched areas are 'commercial overlay', where commercial space is legal: (from: http://maps.nyc.gov/doitt/nycitymap/template?applicationName=ZOLA ) Note that many of the businesses on Classon and Grand are 'nonconforming', meaning they were built before current zoning and could not be rebuilt if the building, say, burnt down.

That's super interesting , thanks. So it looks like they couldn't have built any commercial space in the building even if they wanted to.

It's also looks like only one of those two new buildings on Bedford near EP will be able to have commercial (the one actually on EP), not the northern building b/t Lincoln and St. John's.

Yeah, it's pretty silly in my book— CH would do well to have an east-west commercial artery, perhaps on St John's where there's already a bus line and mostly large-scale buildings. Or Eastern Parkway, despite that not being Olmstead's vision— but people sure seem to like the Parisian boulevards he was inspired by, which are full of businesses.

The kitchen cabinets are in and it looks like now they just need appliances. Assuming the city grants them their CO, we could be looking at occupancy as early as Nov 1 or Dec 1. This may indicate that 22 of the units already have signed leases: https://streeteasy.com/building/564-st-johns-place-brooklyn#tab_building_detail=3. 193 - 22 = 171 units left?

developer has refinanced the building: https://therealdeal.com/2017/10/31/toby-moskovits-lands-81m-crown-heights-refi/

listing: https://www.trulia.com/rental/4037415724-564-Saint-Johns-Pl-517WT-Brooklyn-NY-11238

"Olmstead Brooklyn" https://streeteasy.com/building/olmstead-brooklyn At $3300 for a 2-bed, currently $500 higher than the lingering $2800 2-beds available at "The Dean": https://streeteasy.com/building/the-dean/415 They'll probably have to come down in price.

a very ancient and compact building

It is closer to the subway than The Dean, and its higher floors will get better light.

They are stating December 1 occupancy. https://streeteasy.com/building/olmstead-brooklyn

They are also stating it was built in the year 0 and has 0 stories

Those might be different people. Look for moving trucks on Dec 1.

whynot_31 said:

It is closer to the subway than The Dean, and its higher floors will get better light.

Agreed, I’d much rather be down near EP subways than up at Dean street.

We went to go look at the apartments yesterday. They are ridiculously small, even the two-bedrooms. Like, you can fit a couch. Or a dining table. But probably not both. Hard pass. Especially for $3,800.