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  • Teacher in sex photo trial discovered deadOn trial for alleged inappropriate photos, found dead in car with engine on

    imageUpdated: 3:42 p.m. PT Jan 11, 2007

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    BETHLEHEM, Pa. - A suspended teacher on trial over charges of photographing teenage boys in revealing clothing was found dead in a car idling in his garage, authorities said.Police went to the home of Keith Snyder, 55, after he failed to appear in court Wednesday. Judge F.P. Kimberly McFadden announced the death and sent the jury home. She did not provide any other details.

    An autopsy was scheduled.

    Snyder was suspended from teaching at Southern Lehigh High School shortly after he was charged in 2005 with corruption of minors, solicitation of a minor to pose nude and evidence tampering.

    Several teenage boys who were Snyder’s former students testified this week that Snyder paid them extra if they performed chores at his home while bare-chested or wearing skimpy bathing suits or wrestling singlets.

    “We felt this defendant committed crimes that negatively impacted young boys. Our office vigorously prosecuted the case, but on a human side, whenever a life is lost it is tragic,” said District Attorney John Morganelli.Snyder’s attorney, Bohdan Zelechiwsky, declined to comment.
  • Former Mest Singer Jailed For Fatal Stabbing

    Police say Tony Lovato confessed to stabbing a man involved with his ex-girlfriend.






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    Former Mest singer Tony Lovato, 26, was arrested and jailed on suspicion of murder in Los Angeles on Sunday after police said he confessed to the fatal stabbing of a man linked to his ex-girlfriend.

    Los Angeles Police Department spokesperson Lieutenant Alan Hamilton would not name the victim, but media reports identified him as 25-year-old Wayne Hughes, who Hamilton said had also been previously involved in a relationship with Lovato's ex.

    According to Hamilton, Lovato called 911 and said, "I've been involved in a fight and can you come here," after he got into an altercation with Hughes in the parking garage of a Studio City apartment complex. During the fight Lovato allegedly pulled out a knife and stabbed Hughes in the chest several times, then returned to the apartment to call police. Hamilton could not say what the dispute was over, but said, "it was not two guys fighting over a woman." He also said, "the female was involved" in the deadly altercation, but could not elaborate due to the ongoing investigation. Hughes was transported to Holy Cross Hospital and pronounced dead on arrival.

    Lovato was being held on $1 million bail after being treated for unspecified injuries at a local hospital. He told police that he was assaulted earlier in the day by Hughes in the underground parking lot of the apartment complex. Police had been summoned to the apartment the night before, according to Hamilton, in response to a call for help for an incident that involved the woman and Lovato, though officers determined no crime was committed and the parties went their separate ways. Police advised the woman to seek their assistance if she decided to return to the apartment, but Hamilton said she ignored that advice and returned to the apartment with a female friend. Hughes was not involved in that incident.

    "They were both involved in a relationship with the common female, but they were not currently involved [with her] and we're still investigating what their links and involvement was in terms of their direct relationship to the woman," Hamilton said. The men did not have a business relationship, according to Hamilton.

    Lovato was the lead singer of the Chicago pop-punk band Mest, who formed in the mid-'90s and released four albums on Madonna's Maverick Records imprint. Their final album, Photograph, was released in the fall of 2005 and included the lead single, "Kiss Me, Kill Me," written by guitarist/singer Jeremiah Rangel, which, according to the band's Maverick bio, "follows a tumultuous relationship." The band announced their breakup after a final 2005 tour entitled "So Long and Thanx for the Booze."

    Lovato announced on Mest's MySpace page in October that he had formed a new band called A Permanent Holiday. "Quit trying to belong," Lovato wrote to Mest fans, urging them to give his new group a chance. "Don't worry about people accepting you, cuz you have to accept yourself first. In reality that's really all we are all trying for — to be content."
  • California law violates gays' rights, ex-priest says

    Michael Stephen Baker, who was defrocked in 2000 and faces trial on molestation charges, contends it's easier to prosecute homosexuals.


    By John Spano, Times Staff Writer
    March 8, 2007


    A former Roman Catholic priest said in court Wednesday that the rights of homosexuals have been violated by a state law that makes it easier to prosecute gay pedophiles than heterosexual child molesters.

    It apparently was the first time that gay rights had been introduced into the ongoing prosecution of current and former Catholic priests alleged to have molested children.

    The state law in question imposes no time limits on prosecuting heterosexuals who force intercourse. But gays are subject to prosecution for sex acts with a child without limit regardless of whether the allegations involved forced or consensual sex.

    Defrocked priest Michael Stephen Baker, 59, said the provision denies equal protection of the law to gay people. He cited a provision of the U.S. Constitution that has been used to advance racial and gender equality.

    Baker, appearing in court with a trimmed gray beard, is awaiting trial for allegedly molesting two boys — one who was unconscious — during weekend Catholic youth trips.

    Baker's case is the one Cardinal Roger M. Mahony has said "troubles" him the most. Baker confessed to Mahony his interest in children 20 years ago. He was sent for treatment, allegedly molested more children, and was defrocked by Mahony in 2000.

    Baker's lawyer, Donald H. Steier, pointed to a state Supreme Court decision last year that struck down a provision of the law that required gay child offenders to register for life while imposing less stringent registration requirements on heterosexual offenders.

    A staff attorney for the Lambda Legal Defense and Education Fund, the premier group lobbying for the legal rights of gays, said the sexual orientation of an abuser is irrelevant.

    "People don't have the right to abuse children regardless of their sexual orientation," said Tara Borelli, a Lambda staff attorney. "Abuse by a gay priest isn't a gay issue; it's about abuse of power."

    Baker is awaiting trial on 13 charges of molesting the two boys from 1994 to 1998.

    "Had [Baker] been engaged in heterosexual intercourse with a female of the same age, he could not have been charged," Steier said.

    Steier suggested that Baker's victims consented to the contacts — a claim that prosecutors denounced.

    "To characterize sexual contact between a priest and a student as consensual, let alone as 'consensual, mutual, gentle, homosexual contact' or a 'romantic relationship' as the defense does, is not only profoundly inappropriate, but odious and offensive," according to court papers filed by Los Angeles County Dist. Atty. Steve Cooley's office.

    Five years ago, Baker was charged with molesting an altar boy at St. Paul of the Cross Church in La Mirada. But that case and a dozen others Cooley had filed were dropped after a U.S. Supreme Court decision voided a California law that allowed the prosecution of older child abuse cases.

    The church investigated the current case — though one of the youths denied any improprieties — in 1996, according to a lawyer for the Los Angeles Archdiocese.

    Baker is charged with sex with a minor, and sex with a boy who was unconscious.

    http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-baker8mar08,0,6900808.story?coll=la-home-headlines
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    Bride testifies in sect leader’s trial

    Jeffs tried on rape-as-accomplice charges over allegedly coerced mating


    The Associated Press
    Updated: 9:01 a.m. PT Sept 15, 2007





    ST. GEORGE, Utah - A former follower of a polygamous-sect leader sobbed on the witness stand Friday as she described the terror and despair she felt on the eve of her wedding at age 14.
    “I kept thinking I felt like I was getting ready for death,” she testified on the second day of the trial of Warren Jeffs, leader of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.

    Jeffs is charged with two felony counts of rape as an accomplice.

    Prosecutors contend he used his religious authority to coerce the ceremonial marriage and pressure the teen bride to have sex with her 19-year-old cousin against her objections.



    In her testimony Friday, the woman, now 21, said she was shocked when she learned she had been selected for the marriage by Rulon Jeffs, Warren Jeffs’ father, the church prophet at the time who is now dead. The woman said she pleaded with Rulon Jeffs to delay the marriage until she turned 16 or to be given to another man.


    Her efforts to avoid the union failed, said the woman, who is not being identified by The Associated Press because she is alleging sexual assault. She testified that Warren Jeffs told her: “Your heart is in the wrong place; this is what the prophet wants you to do.”
    “I felt betrayed by the people I trusted most ... my father, and Warren because he completely overlooked the fact that this was something I didn’t want to do and was unwilling to do,” the woman testified.





    Bride describes 'immense pressure'
    The marriage took place on April 23, 2001, in a motel in Caliente, Nev., owned by FLDS members. Describing her emotions during the wedding ceremony, the woman said: “Trapped. Extremely overwhelmed. Immense pressure.”
    She said she hung her head and cried in despair when pressed by Jeffs to say “I do” and had to be coaxed to kiss her new husband.
    Jeffs then commanded the new couple to “go forth and multiply and replenish the Earth with good priesthood children,” she testified.


    In the FLDS community, marriage and motherhood are considered the highest achievements for women, who pray to be prepared to marry and follow a worthy man from a young age. But girls receive no information about their bodies, sexual relations or procreation, the woman testified.
    Horrified that she would have to make a life with her cousin, the woman said she refused his sexual advances, which began on the wedding night and gradually escalated until he exposed himself to her in a public park one night and later undressed her to look at her naked body.





    Followers see Jeffs as a prophet

    Jeffs, 51, has led the FLDS church since 2002. Followers see him as a prophet who communicates with God and holds dominion over their salvation; ex-church members say he reigns with an iron fist, demanding perfect obedience from followers.


    Jeffs was a fugitive for nearly two years and was on the FBI’s Most Wanted list when he was arrested during a traffic stop outside Las Vegas in August 2006. If convicted, he could spend the rest of his life in prison.


    Jeffs is not charged with being a polygamist, and the three-year marriage between the cousins was monogamous. Still, polygamy casts a shadow over the case.


    Polygamy advocates have long contended that the freedom to practice plural marriage as part of their religion is a civil rights matter.


    Members of FLDS, which broke away from the Mormon church, believe polygamy brings exaltation in heaven.
    The Mormon church disavowed polygamy in 1890 and excommunicates members found to be practicing plural marriage.
  • I think we've all missed the real problem with JAH. Remember that thread on the WACK PEEN.
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  • Blinded by the White: Crime, Race and Denial in America
    By Tim Wise




    Imagine if you will the following: The place is a quiet, suburban community. The kind commonly referred to by its residents as a "nice place to live and raise children." It's a community known for civic pride, affluent families, and schools where the students score well above the national average on aptitude tests. It's also 93 percent white.

    Now imagine that at this community's high school, a handful of black students who say they feel like outcasts begin talking openly about how they hate everyone. They start dressing alike--perhaps wearing the same colors, or leather jackets, or black berets--and referring to themselves as the "dashiki posse."

    Furthermore, they show off their gun collection in a video, which they produce for a class project. In this video, they act out the murders of dozens of their fellow students and teachers.

    In addition to all this, the students are known to operate a website which espouses hatred and violence, and on this website they have been known to post what amounts to hit lists--letting everyone know who they hate most, and intend to kill first. One of the targets of their hatred discovers the list, tells his father, and the two of them inform police of the thinly veiled threat.

    Let's imagine these black students are fond of a particularly "violent" form of music--say, gangsta' rap--and are known to paint viciously anti-white slogans and symbols on their clothing, and sing the praises of a particular black mass murderer--say, Colin Ferguson.

    Now, let us answer the following question: How long would it take, based on the above information, for school officials, teachers, and parents to make sure these kids were expelled from school and perhaps prosecuted? How long would it take for their families to be run out of town on a rail? Does anyone believe this scenario would have been met with apathy, cautious indifference, or even amusement?

    Of course not. But that's exactly what happened in the real world when at this same school, in this same community, two white students from "good families" began dressing alike, saying they hated everyone, calling themselves the "Trenchcoat Mafia," listening to "shock-rock" and the sometimes violent lyrics of white musical artists, showing off their guns and murder fantasies on film, operating a website which praised Hitler and advocated violence, painting swastikas on their clothes, and naming the people they wanted to kill over the Internet. Still seen as "basically normal kids" by their families, friends, and teachers, these two would be ignored. Ignored that is until last week, when they would go on a killing rampage reminiscent of the previous seven that have occurred at schools around the country in the past two years.

    No one really thought they'd do anything," said some of their classmates. "We thought it was all talk," said others. Of course. These were white kids, with BMW's, whose families make six figures or more. These are the beautiful people. They never do anything wrong.

    We moved from the city to get away from things like this." The statement rings in my ears with a burning familiarity. It's the same thing heard after Paduchah, Pearl, Fayetteville, Jonesboro, Edinboro, Springfield, and now Littleton. Some people never get it. Some people are so caught up in their race and class stereotypes about what "danger" looks like, they still insist "things like this just don't happen here."

    Oh yeah? Well, where do they happen? I have yet to hear of one black or Latino kid in even one inner-city high school plotting, let alone carrying out mass murder. Just where does an urban-dweller go to build 30 bombs anyway? Where can they sit around sawing off shotguns without someone noticing? Christ, if these kids had been black they would have been followed around the hardware store for so long that they would never have been able to buy any pipes, let alone the other ingredients needed for the kind of explosives Klebold and Harris concocted.

    So in light of what's happened, not only in Littleton, but in other "nice, quiet" suburbs all around the country lately, one must ask: just what were these folks trying to get away from in the cities? Must not have been violence. Must have been black and brown people (except, of course, for the handful that can afford to live among them in style), and poor folks generally. How sad. Once again, the racialization of crime and deviance has allowed us to let down our guard to the greatest threats to our safety: not people of color (if we're white), but our own white children, white parents, white neighbors, white husbands, white lovers, and white friends.

    We have been so conditioned to see deviant and destructive behavior as a by-product of melanin or "defective" black culture, that commentators can, without any sense of irony continue to remark about how, well, remarkable it is when things like this happen.

    It reminds me of something James Baldwin once said about the Holocaust--a much bigger paroxysm of white violence no doubt, but which nonetheless resonates here--"They did not know that they could act that way. But I doubt very much whether black people were astounded."

    The white American myth of innocence, decency, morality, and the cowboys who never fired on an "injun" unless it was self-defense, have all been laid bare for those willing to see. That people of color always knew the myths to be bullshit, while the dominant majority refused to listen and look at themselves only makes the situation more tragic. But not a damn bit more shocking. Of course, that the mass killers in the schoolyards have all been white as of late has gone without mention in the media. Oh sure, we hear about the similarities between the Columbine High tragedy and the others--well, at least some of the similarities: all the shooters were boys; all the shooters used guns; all the shooters talked openly about violence; all the shooters played violent video games; all the shooters ate Cheerios at some point in the last ten years--you get the picture. In other words, the racial similarities between all these gun-lovin', trash-talking, dark-clothes wearing, `Doom'-playin,' Cheerios-eatin,' Marilyn Manson-listenin' bundles of testosterone are irrelevant. While we can rest assured these kids would have been "raced" had they come from black "ghetto matriarchs" in the `hood, it seems as though no one can see the most obvious common characteristic among them: namely, their white skin. This, I guess, is what folks mean when they say they're color-blind: they can see color all right, it's white they have a problem with.

    Typical, typical, typical. White folks go off, killing wholesale like there's a frickin' closeout on semi-automatic ammunition, and we get fifty "explanations" from the so-called experts who are called in by the media to make sense of it all.






    People of color do something horrific or commit random acts of retail violence and the whole world lines up to blame one of three things: their black families (particularly their black single mommas); their black DNA (as in the rantings of The Bell Curve); or their "defective" black culture and inverted value system. Whatever the case, their blackness never, and I mean never, gets overlooked.




    Gang violence in the cities heats up and we've got U.S. News and World Report running a cover story entitled: "A Shocking Look at Blacks and Crime," and every nighttime news program running stories asking "what's wrong with the black family (as if there's only one); what's wrong with these people in the "ghetto underclass."





    But when Charles Manson, John Wayne Gacy, Ted Bundy, and Jeffrey Dahmer go out and do their thing, no one thinks to ask what it is about white folks that makes them cut babies out of their mothers' wombs, torture young men and bury them under the house, kill two dozen or more women for the hell of it, or consume human flesh. White deviants are afforded the privilege of individualization--"that's just crazy Charlie, ignore him, he's a potted plant"--while those of color get to represent the whole community and become exhibit A in David Duke and Charles Murray's eugenic fantasy. You say 90 percent of modern serial killers have been white? Well, isn't that puzzling. Next question.

    You'll never even hear the term "white crime" uttered in polite conversation. White collar crime, maybe; but to suggest that the collar might not be the only thing lacking color, would be dogma non grata in mainstream discussion. "White-on-white violence?" What the hell is that? Never heard of it. Even in the wake of these massacres. Even as white folks are killing other white folks in Kosovo (and still other white folks are bombing them to get them to stop).

    The media and politicians have done such a fine job making sure everyone knows who to fear (namely the dark and poor) that we forget how whites are disproportionately likely to engage in all kinds of destructive behavior, from drunk driving, to drug use as teenagers, to animal mutilation, to fratricide, to cutting corners on occupational safety standards and pollution control, which then result in the deaths of twice as many people as are murdered each year.

    We forget that when it comes to violent crime, whites are four times more likely to be victimized by another white person than by a person of color, and that only sixteen-thousandths of 1 percent of the white community will be killed by a black person in a given year.


    It all leads one to wonder: how many of the white families with kids at Columbine would have moved away, or at least taken their kids out of the school if, say, 50 or 100 black families had moved in and enrolled their children there? If other suburban communities and other white folks are any indication, the answer is quite a few. Study after study for 25 years has found that whites begin to leave an area and disenroll their kids from the local schools when the community becomes as little as 8 percent black. As the numbers get higher, the slow trickle becomes a mass exodus. Why? Well, to get away from crime, of course. I'm pretty sure this is the textbook definition of irony.




    Even more hilarious is the tendency to act as if young white people were ever innocent, upstanding citizens compared to the rest of the country. Even as far back as 1966, a national survey of 15 to 17 -year-old whites found that "virtually all" had committed numerous criminal offenses, from breaking and entering, to minor property destruction, to armed robbery.


    I've decided that's why all those shows like "Leave it To Beaver," "Father Knows Best," and "The Brady Bunch" were so popular: not because many people actually lived like that, but because they didn't, and could escape into this unreal fantasy life via the television. After all, why watch a program that looks just like your daily routine? That would be boring. So just as with westerns that allowed (mostly white) kids to fantasize about a more exciting life, these wholesome family programs allowed (and still allow in syndication) mostly white viewers to ignore the dysfunction which is really all around them, and always has been, long before the first black kid set foot in their schools, and long before the "Godless" humanists bounced prayer from homeroom.




    Unfortunately, I have no doubt this kind of thing will happen again. In fact, had it not been for a few folks informing on plots they knew about, we would already have added a Milwaukee suburb to the list of white teen angst killing fields, and a week after Columbine would have gotten a look at what kind of explosives Caucasians in Texas are capable of putting together. And still, according to my morning paper, less than half of all teens and their parents (mostly white if modern survey techniques are any guide) think their schools are at risk for this kind of violence.

    Yeah, well, just keep telling yourself that. Keep watching "COPS" and "Real Stories of the Highway Patrol," and "America's Most Wanted," where most of the bad guys fit the more comfortable profile to which we've grown accustomed. I can hear the dialogue now: "Why look at how menacing the large Negro is honey! My, oh, my, we sure are glad we moved out here to Pleasantville. Me, my lovely wife, and our son. Speaking of whom, honey, where is Waldo anyway? I don't think I've seen him all week. Is he on that computer of his again? That scamp. Such a hard worker. Oh, and honey, what was that sawing sound coming from the garage last night?"

    Tim Wise is the Director of the newly formed Association for White Anti-Racist Education (AWARE), in Nashville, Tennessee.




    Link:
    http://www.zmag.org/ZMag/articles/wise.htm
  • FYI Carnivore asked me to post stats but since they don't compile stats against white people I had to post actual stories. If these aren't enough I have many many more...
  • modsquad wrote: I think we've all missed the real problem with JAH. Remember that thread on the WACK PEEN.
  • modsquad wrote: [quote=modsquad]I think we've all missed the real problem with JAH. Remember that thread on the WACK PEEN.
    WTF is wack peen? A white man with a microscopic penis?
  • ahahahah holy shit ...ahahahah JAH your wildin ahahahah
  • JAH wrote: [quote=modsquad][quote=modsquad]I think we've all missed the real problem with JAH. Remember that thread on the WACK PEEN.
    WTF is wack peen? A white man with a microscopic penis?
  • supreme_ian wrote: ahahahah holy shit ...ahahahah JAH your wildin ahahahah
    I LOVE your photos Ian!
  • JAH wrote: http://www.cpiu.us/statistics.php

    While nearly 70% of those serving time for violent crimes against children were white, whites accounted for 40% of those imprisoned for violent crimes against adults.
    In the 2006 U.S. census, whites made up 80% of the U.S. population. So your figures suggest that whites are less likely to serve time for violent crimes against children than others. And I thought your original point was that whites were more likely to be "sexual predators" (meaning sweet tea, an adult, would have to fear them walking down the street). You haven't addressed that at all. You've totally pulled a KWAC here, and posted a bunch of anecdotes and pretended they're statistics.
  • Carnivore wrote:
    In the 2006 U.S. census, whites made up 80% of the U.S. population. So your figures suggest that whites are less likely to serve time for violent crimes against children than others. And I thought your original point was that whites were more likely to be "sexual predators" (meaning sweet tea, an adult, would have to fear them walking down the street). You haven't addressed that at all. You've totally pulled a KWAC here, and posted a bunch of anecdotes and pretended they're statistics.
    THEY DON'T MAKE STATS THAT LOOK BAD AGAINST WHITES WHAT PART YOU DON'T OVERSTAND?

    I posted news articles from valid sources. A boy raping his mother? All the white priests and bishops molesting children?

    You gonna see what you want to see so continue to enjoy your shit colored glasses.
  • JAH wrote: THEY DON'T MAKE STATS THAT LOOK BAD AGAINST WHITES WHAT PART YOU DON'T OVERSTAND?

    I posted news articles from valid sources. A boy raping his mother? All the white priests and bishops molesting children?

    You gonna see what you want to see so continue to enjoy your shit colored glasses.
    Bullshit.

    There's no point to getting into a pissing contest posting articles about who commits more crimes, since we all know the media is biased. I don't have a horse in this race. I said my perception was one thing but that I don't know the stats and asked if you did. Now you admit that you don't know the stats either. That's fine. Believe what you want, but don't pretend it's more than an opinion.
  • Carnivore wrote: [quote=JAH]THEY DON'T MAKE STATS THAT LOOK BAD AGAINST WHITES WHAT PART YOU DON'T OVERSTAND?

    I posted news articles from valid sources. A boy raping his mother? All the white priests and bishops molesting children?

    You gonna see what you want to see so continue to enjoy your shit colored glasses.
    Bullshit.

    I am calling bullshit on you too. If it's bullshit then show me even one example of a single set of stats skewed against whites about any subject from anywhere. You can't as they don't exist.
  • JAH wrote: I am calling bullshit on you too. If it's bullshit then show me even one example of a single set of stats skewed against whites about any subject from anywhere. You can't as they don't exist.
    This is stupid. So now statistics are racist? Yes people can lie with statistics by framing questions in deceptive ways, and yes the can be biased reporting of statistics, but your point is just ridiculous.

    Counter-example:
    http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/66496.php
  • Carnivore wrote:
    This is stupid. So now statistics are racist? Yes people can lie with statistics by framing questions in deceptive ways, and yes the can be biased reporting of statistics, but your point is just ridiculous.

    Counter-example:
    http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/66496.php
    It is common knowledge that whites use and manufacture the most drugs.
  • JAH wrote: [quote=Carnivore]
    This is stupid. So now statistics are racist? Yes people can lie with statistics by framing questions in deceptive ways, and yes the can be biased reporting of statistics, but your point is just ridiculous.

    Counter-example:
    http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/66496.php
    It is common knowledge that whites use and manufacture the most drugs.
    Well the stats I just posted show that they use more methamphetamine, anyway. But that doesn't change the fact that neither of us know the statistics for who commits more rapes (compared to their share of the U.S. population, of course).
  • WTF? Breaking pages and shit.

    Rapists? Blue , white,red, green , black? Who gives a fuck? Most rapists are MEN. Not normal men. A bunch of sick mofos with a serious malfuntion.


    July 5th -It's been a while. Wel......come.back. :roll:
  • Em26 wrote: Most rapists are MEN.
    yes, that is more or less my point. i'd be pretty surprised to learn that most assailants aren't men, period -- i wasn't only talking about fears of sexual assault.

    that is why i said that my behavior is not about race but gender.
  • Anyone else unable to make out everything in this thread because of the formatting on all those articles? It's cutting off words on the right.

    Pity, cause this thread had been SO enlightening and rationally-argued up until that. :roll:
  • sweet tea wrote: yes, that is more or less my point. i'd be pretty surprised to learn that most assailants aren't men, period -- i wasn't only talking about fears of sexual assault.

    that is why i said that my behavior is not about race but gender.
    I know what you meant. It's understandable.

    You weren't the one to break out the expired crayons and continue to color like crazy.
  • Em26 wrote:
    I know what you meant. It's understandable.

    You weren't the one to break out the expired crayons and continue to color like crazy.
    you are exhibiting alot of bitchassness
  • I think we are on our way to setting a new "length" record with this thread
  • JAH wrote: [quote=Em26]
    I know what you meant. It's understandable.

    You weren't the one to break out the expired crayons and continue to color like crazy.
    you are exhibiting alot of bitchassness

    JAH- this is YOU not being NICE. :evil:
  • Whatchuwant wrote:

    JAH- this is YOU not being NICE. :evil:
    she was not nice first and her title says no bitchassness
  • It's like looking at a car crash... you can't look away...
  • Ahhhh. I love smell of unbridled hatred in the morning.
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