Why are white guys still allow to write racist shit like this on main stream
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You know what i would love to see, Asian anchors promoting Asian issues like they do on CNN with other minorities.
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Hamilton said:
Armchair, your right, why should he waste his time writing about i-pods, when there's so much more out there to highlight oriental activities,
these are a few,
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EXPORTING TOXIC ITEMS TO THE U.S.A.
dietary supplements
cosmetics.
apple preserves with cancer causing chemicals.
drywall.
children's products.
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RIP-OFFS
clothing
electronics
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UNDERGROUND MARKETS WHERE NO TAS ARE PAIDhidden stores in china town.
illegal rentals in sunset park, where partitions are set up and 10 to an apartment live and income not reported by the landlord.why report on these when there's a hot issue on i-pods available.
So oriental again huh?
please you guys get the cleaner products vs what is sold at home. from fake eggs to toxic milk to others etc...
So you are being treated better than equal. Plus tons of the products were made by american companies. china is just assembling. true cost of made in china is really made else where and assemble there.
and they copy everyone including other Chinese companies and hell life is about adapting and copying.
The west been copying Chinese thousands of years, it's fair.
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armchair_warrior said:
The west been copying Chinese thousands of years, it's fair.Er, wha?
Pre-1850 there were significant two-way exchanges of influences between China and the western and near/middle-eastern worlds. Hardly one-sided.
But after that? Very one-sided, but not in the way you suggest. Did China not adopt western industrial revolution technologies to emerge from a largely agrarian society of past centuries?
From factory production to the Internet, China embraced Western ways to modernize itself, often locking out western competitors (most recently with Internet) from competing on their own soil.
Further on the copying point, where has the worldwide center of counterfeiting and cheaply-built knock-offs of western products and technologies been for decades?
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Its ok.Every growing nation breaks laws, restricts trade, pollutes, slaughters, etc to get ahead in the world.
This critique isn't about china, per se.
Britian had an world wide empire.
The US slaughtered the Native American population
etc, etc....it is just part of life.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bamboo-copter west alway go oh devinci etc.. bs they actually use chinese toy to get the idea lol. same goes for chinese lantern(toy) for hot air balloons.
I'll just quick list modern stuff that without china the west couldn't of won the new world.
guns and rockets, paper, watertight compartments in ships, rudder for ships, compass.
They dined on pork and chicken (domesticated in china).
Modern Turks and Hungarians came from Nomadic groups in near China. Because of the wall that was built. China limited trade with the rest of the world. Tons of Nomadic groups over the thousands of years left the borders to establish kingdoms from India to Europe.
Ideas went with them from the limited trade. they kept people out, but also let trade and tech go along those same trade routes, but let very few people in.
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My mistake, i hadn't realize you toxins are better then ours.
The difference is we are alerted to what's in our milk and cleaners and know what to avoid.
China exports contaminated products with total disregard to the effects it has on our population.
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Is it too early to declare that American businesses would export toxic products to china if we thought we could get away with it?
...and china wanted anything we produced?
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whynot_31 said:
Is it too early to declare that American businesses would export toxic products to china if we thought we could get away with it?...and china wanted anything we produced?
if they sold it here too LOL. it's not like Chinese producers are going oh we deliberately put in toxic stuff just for Americans. hell they put in the domestic market before it reaches the western markets. In general rule of thumb is the stuff that is exported is normally better than local stuff. Thats why people travel to other countries repurchase the products there was assemble(majority of made in china isn't really made there, china has trade deficits with tons of countries and those countries make the components) there.
high tech exports and weapons. too bad americans don't have lux products european and japanese have.
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The US is just jealous of China's increasing success.
...don't worry, we will soon lower our environmental standards and wages in an effort to compete with China. Likewise, wages in China will increase, and China will occasionally execute the producers of toxic products.
It is already happening.
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armchair,
I expanded some items to my post above.
Many of the decent size examples you noted are interesting but are very small in comparison to the absolutely massive impact of the factory production techniques and machinery inventions of the industrial revolution, steel production and elevators that lead to medium- and high-rise buildings and the exploding growth of large modern cities with transit systems. Then of course there are paved roads and highway systems and railroads and modern winged aircraft aviation and engine-driven shipping that utterly revolutionized travel and trade on local, national and international levels and so much else in computers, software and even the Internet itself that were all born in the West.
All of these were invented in the West with no influences from China leading to their invention.
In fact, China embraced all of these Western inventions to modernize itself from a mainly agrarian economy in an effort to catch up to the western world and take its place on the world stage.
In fact, with the Internet they've even taken the ideas and technology into China and closed it to the very companies that invented and developed it in the first place.
I understand pride in one's background but history is history, and China did well to embrace Western ideas and technologies to become more modern and prosperous.
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factory production wasn't a Henry ford thing lol. the oldest court building in western us comes from china(china massively produce houses(other products) for thousands of years). so someone in the 1800's order one from china. it was faster to order one than build one.
aviation wouldn't of left the ground without the Chinese toys.(Chinese scholars been talking and designing flying machines for thousands of years, didn't have the engines to make it fly)
paved roads?? lol chinese been building roads etc.. before the west started to eat with forks.
modern tech is a collection of the worlds ideas. west just accumulated it after destroying the old world trade routes to wars.
without higher math the Chinese contributed I wonder where your modern tech will be.
the world would of modernize without the west, but could the west modernize without china?
go read some of these books http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_Civilization_in_China
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I love people who think that it is their "duty to their identity" to swear everything was invented by their race or country.
...they never seem to give credit to people who made innovations, or changes to ideas and products.
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lol
I'm just defending sorry. I love modern tech and huge anglophile. I'm just making a point obviously west made modern world what is modern lol. Point is without bases for some things, would some of the things we have today possible be possible?
Look at chinese lanterns and chinese tops. one inspire some french guys to build man size versions of it. other toy inspire the tops used on helicopter of today.
come on guns and rockets? would been a fair fight with natives?
rudder and compass would of gotten lost in the big ocean
just stating a point of omg they copy everything!!! it wasn't always that way.
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AW-
You fail to include Dim Sum. It is by far the Chinese invention that I value the most.
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Are you claiming that the Chinese invented human desire for and quest for flight?
That's a universal thing that humans have experimented with since practically the dawn of our existence anywhere.
As I said, winged flight and even jet engines (far more massive in impact than helicopters) were western inventions, adopted by China.
Sorry, China did not invent paved roads. Medium-sized stone paved roads have been around everywhere all over earlier civilizations for thousands of years, even well before the Romans back 4000 years ago in Iraq.
I am speaking of modern layered gravel+asphalt techniques developed in France in the early 1800s. The smooth asphalt was a major factor in more smooth, long-term vehicular travel and that opened travel and business trade up to much wider reach with the basic motorized vehicles at the time (also first invented in US and Europe).
As for modern assembly line factory production that allows for whole orders of magnitude of greater and cheaper production, well, that was absolutely invented here in the US by Henry Ford and China absolutely embraced that.
And Dell and other American companies invented just-in-time production that again revolutionized industry to offer more efficient, custom-tailored products like computers as per configurations of customer orders themselves.
Are you claiming higher math for China? Wow, ha. Guess you are not familiar with the Egyptians and especially Persians. Sorry, Algebra and Calculus did not originate in China. Neither did Particle/Quantum/Nuclear Physics or even modern string theory etc. China also adopted these.
China did have its own contributions in math but absolutely embraced all of the above from the Middle/East Asia and the West.
As for low-rise courthouses and houses, that's completely unrelated and have been around for thousands of years elsewhere. Heck, they just uncovered ancient Greek ruins on the island of Santorini that have 5-story buildings with indoor plumbing. Low-rise happened all over the place.
What I mentioned was the entire reason why we have mid- and high-rises that created the large modern cities of today: steel, elevators and machine-driven transportation. All came from the West. Everywhere in the entire world (yes, including China) had nothing above 10 stories or so before steel and elevators.
The only high-rises before that were pyramids, but building a large city of thousands of those is hardly practical.
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I didn't said they invented it, i said they had it for a long time didn't need to take it from the west, you said modern west has
"Then of course there are paved roads"
the concept of flight the ideas from rudders, blades, kites, man kites were already toys in china. without those building blocks to help the modern western world.
china contribute to mathematics. just saying you think the modern world is solely based on the west.
modern factory production been around for thousands of years, just the west came up with the same thing way later. that is a historical fact. chinese massively produced weapons man million man armies way before the modern world.
look up something called the grand canal while you're at it.
china has been producing steel for the most of record history of when steel was invented largest producer of steel until a short blimp in for a century.
seriously go read a series of books written by some white guy. i posted above.
What I mentioned was the entire reason why we have mid- and high-rises that created the large modern cities of today: steel, elevators and machine-driven transportation. All came from the West. Everywhere in the entire world (yes, including China) had nothing above 10 stories or so before steel and elevators.
here is 13 stories for you http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Pagoda
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All of the accomplishments you list pale in comparison to Dim Sum.Likewise, no one has mentioned that the US invented the combo meal.
Where are your priorities? ...it's 1:30!
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Nope, not saying solely.
Just rebutting your point that everyone else copied Chinese inventions of everything.
Factory production, yes. That's still very slow. Assembly-line production invented by Henry Ford immediately increased monthly production 100x.
And all the other massive-impact items I mentioned above that utterly revolutionized the world into the modern age.
All of this is just to say that different regions at different times contributed major things. Everything major and minor out there was not invented in China and everyone else copied it.
China did contribute many things, but it also copied a lot.
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Yes, China produces many things. Many of those things, and the methods in which they are produced were invented elsewhere.
Yeah, I said low-rise was about 10 stories. Not 30, 50, 100 which became possible due to the invention of steel and elevators.
Iron has been around forever as well and is not strong enough or well-suited to be used for any medium-rise or high-rise buildings.
You are right to be proud of China's long and rich cultural heritage, just know that much of what China embraced to modernize itself from a rural, agrarian economy was invented elsewhere.
It's just not accurate to say that all of the world merely copies China.
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look at flight.
kites and man kites form the bases for modern flight, not saying invented modern flight but bases for it.
toy lanterns for hot air balloons
toy tops were the modern bases for modern helicopter tops.
china learn the modern stuff very quickly, not centuries or thousands of years LOL, within years, because china already had the knowledge to easily learn the modern stuff.
modern tech is a compendium of all human knowledge from many cultures. -
"The U.S. is just jealous of China's increasing success ."
Isn't their success due to our trade agreements with them and If they are so successful why are we being flooded with illegals fleeing their country.
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Flight: humans everywhere have experimented with it since forever.
Most observed and experimented to copy the form of birds and insects, which were everywhere.
Prove that China invented birds and insects and perhaps only then will your claim that no one else had these ideas might ring true.
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I told you steel been massively produce in china for a long time because of factories there and ceramic tech.
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don't need birds china had kites and man kites, and mini hot air balloons and toy helicopter tops to prove it. where in the west can you said that in history?
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btw chinese use coal in the steel industry thousand years before.
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The printing press.
Before it the written word worldwide was written by hand, going back to scribes in antiquity thousands of years ago.
In the west this was done by a person writing every page by hand with bird feather quills. In China and elsewhere in East Asia this was done by a person writing every page by hand with a brush made of animal hair.
For important texts there would simultaneously be many of these scribes producing copies, writing page by page. It would take a very long time to produce very few copies, even if multiple scribes were working at the same time.
Then Guttenberg's printing press came and everything changed. Whole books and journals could be produced relatively instantly and in large numbers, creating an explosion of news and print media.
There's another hyuuuuge one.
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btw metal suspension bridges aren't western thing too. china had one thousand years ago. last seen during ww2. I think it got destroy during the war. it was located in some mountain region.
if you like gambling chinese sure do, playing cards were made there. -
if one invented modern paper, i think the printing press been around there too.
majority of books up until the 1800's were printed in china.
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Yeah, worldwide the iron age left us with great stuff.
Good times.
And yeah, wood block and movable type was a big step forward. Duh, forgot that step. Much quicker than by hand by brush or quill.
And the printing press definitely springs from invention of movable type.
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