Why are white guys still allow to write racist shit like this on main stream

AW-

Jeffery seems to be making the argument that innovation occurs far more often, and makes a much larger impact than invention.

Hamilton said:

"The U.S. is just jealous of China's increasing success ."

Isn't their success due to our trade agreements with them and If they are so successful why are we being flooded with illegals fleeing their country.

In the modern world, the trade of goods and services between nations is key to success.

Humans are like all inputs, and will move to the location of the highest bidder.

armchair_warrior said:

chinese characters are into 10's of thousands of characters.

Which, by the way, would totally suck without a spell-checker.

armchair_warrior said:

china was in the steel ages for a long time dude read some books seriously.

Right, true, I was too vague. To specify, it was the use of steel frameworks created uniformly as an interior skeleton. There have been structures using iron and steel in the past but the 20th Century breakthrough was how it was used...beams of standard size and shape combined in a repeated skeletal pattern to maximize stability to allow higher structures. None of which were practical, of course, without the engine-driven elevator (itself iterated from prior, more basic manual/animal driven ones without buttons, lights, music and captive advertising screens).

armchair_warrior said:

when i was in school the books still insisted some guy in England invented gunpowder and guns, while china only had fire works to show for it. even though their looters took worlds oldest cannon from china to their museums in Europe.

Fortunately in the 70s and 80s where I was the books correctly attributed gunpowder to China.

But yeah, especially when you have narrow minds deciding what is history (often rewritten over the ages by the victors and powerful) there ends up being plenty of garbage out there.

These days you can thank the Texas Board of Education, for deciding by default (due to sheer student/system size) what goes in nationwide textbooks.

Texas Conservatives Win Curriculum Change

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/13/education/13texas.html

armchair_warrior said:

Science and Civilisation in China (1954–2008)

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To date there have been 27 volumes (and parts).

Is there a tl;dr version?

That sounds like a great read, will check it out. Literally. As in, I hope they have it at the BPL.

jeffery wrote: especially when you have narrow minds deciding what is history (often rewritten over the ages by the victors and powerful) there ends up being plenty of garbage out there.

It's also worth mentioning that, whereas China may have

1) provided the world with many ideas pre-1850

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2) absorbed a lot from elsewhere post 1850

(rough generalization of timeline, too lazy to check )

...they have in recent years now reached a state of modernization, capabilities and international prominence that, combined with their sheer size and scale, will likely put them right back in the position to become more of a net contributor of cultural, technological and scientific ideas.

In past decades many of their best and brightest would seek out schools and highly-skilled jobs in the US and Europe. But in recent years, especially given all the high-tech and scientific work now based there and a newly expanding middle class to help support these matters, there is now much more incentive and government initiative for their best and brightest to remain there in China.

So the pendulum there is no doubt in mid swing back to a period of breakthroughs, innovation and new ideas there as in past eras, at least wherever and however far the government will allow it.

One likely area:

Since funding and current business for German and especially US companies in solar tech is falling apart at present, that huge market in particular is likely to be dominated and further innovated by Chinese companies not experiencing similar lack in funding and business and able to produce and ship products at far lower costs.

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I feel your response is an over simplification , i'm sure the massive influx is due to people escaping a country that is famous for it's human rights violations and not a need by the U.S. for additional workers .

in fact a few weeks ago a friend who has been unemployed for a while mentioned , with great reluctance, was going to sign up for food stamps and would i accompany him to what he felt was one of the most degrading moments in his life.

we arrived at the coney island center and was stunned to see close to 120 chinese along with an interpreter,

who was not only filling out their forms but was doing their interviews, as they couldn't speak english.

their not her for opportunity, their here for entitlements.

what happened to-you had to have a sponsor when entering the country.

in the old days they said America welcomed everyone with open arms, now it's with open legs as we are getting f'kd

A better life (aka "opportunity") comes in many forms. Some come for

higher wages than back home

others come for welfare benefits

others come for a low crime rate

others come for indoor plumbing

others come for health care

....as long as these things are better "here" than "there", they will "here" from where ever "there" is.

Likewise, the concept of "need" is vague. You are correct in that we have plenty of unemployed people here which could fill the jobs the Chinese are accepting. However, it is more complicated than that.

On a micro scale, a business does not hire based on the county's "need", a business hires the individual person it expects will do the most work for the combination of least money and hassle. In many industries, this choice leads one away from persons born in the US.

On a macro scale, the customer does not hire a manufacturer based on need, the customer hires the manufacturer it expects will do the most work for the combination of least money and hassle. In many industries, this choice leads one to China.

The good news is that you don't have to like it.

Here's who qualifies for Food Stamps, and the monthly benefit rates for food stamps.

http://www.nyc.gov/html/hia/html/other/benefits_food_stamps.shtml

armchair_warrior said:

okay so only "Americans" should get food stamps?

I'm sure the 120 chinese had to wait for that one person to do the translation probably been waiting for a long time for it. Think about it. statically Asians are still one of the lowest groups to get any type of public assistance. Is it easier to do each form and wait for each person or do it en mass you're being paid for it?

I doubt they come here for that, some of them probably don't make enough working for the man. When we came here we there were rules that you can't go on public assistance or your family would lose the money they guarantee you for.

any immigration lawyers know if this still true?

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americans can apply, if the russians leave anything on the table.

armchair_warrior said:

so you think Russians take everything?

only if they can.