Women and Body odor

just wondering how long it takes till this thread hits gawker...

Oh, I like Toadette's idea!

Really? If she doesn't even use shower lotion why would she use lip balm or any of these other products? This is like giving a fat person a diet book.

does the woman have a sense of smell? seriously, she may not know that she smells because she can't smell it herself.

otherwise, she has to know. it's a difficult conversation to have but just have it.

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maybe we should all chip in.

Toadette wrote: Make her a pretty gift basket of a bunch of all-natural products, nice girly stuff like body wash, shampoo, lotions, lip balm, massage oil, candles, loofah, etc. and include the deodorant in there so it just one item in a very sweet and thoughtful gift. That way the focus isn't on the deodorant (which would scream "YOU STINK!" and might embarrass her) but you know she has it and you can always ask her a few days later "hey, did you try that all-natural deodorant in there? I'm thinking of trying it myself if it works..."

This.

Christina wrote: Really? If she doesn't even use shower lotion why would she use lip balm or any of these other products? This is like giving a fat person a diet book.

Yeah, I'm kind of thinking the same thing

Seriously , some people wear their stink like a badge. I've been witness to that, including an influential person at work who made the entire half of one of the floors of a midtown highrise reek. Be prepared for that possibility as well. That'd be a deal breaker for me.

Note how everyone talks in past tense...

if the woman wanted to wear deodorant, she would. she obviously doesn't want to.

ok, I went on an anti-antiperspirant kick for years. The Thai Crystal worked best for me. Tom's stunk (literally) and Earth Science was so-so. Truth is, I smelled musky at times.

I kid you not I went back to antiperspirant two weeks ago. Why? Because an honest male friend told me, "hey, sometimes you don't smell too good."

I knew it to be true, I can smell my shirts, but I was dealing w/it because I wanted less chemicals on my body. But, I want to raise my arms and not have people turned off.

So, MeredithB, if this person is a friend or a partner, be honest but kind. Let her know, gently, that she's got BO and it's strong. Ask if she's allergic and then suggest Thai Crystal (worked well for a while, and i sweat like a pig) and that she may need to keep switching products (for me, they worked well in the beginning and then stopped working).

If she freaks out over you talking to her about this, then that will tell you A LOT. But seriously, don't sweat this. Let her know. Nicely. :-)

I rather people just come out and tell me, you know? But, she may not change for you.

Meredith, aboout 8 years ago a co-worker of mine commented that a large woman had tried to sit next to him on the subway in a space only big enough for a tiny person. As she was about to sit, the co-worker said to the large woman, (possibly in an homage to Johnnie Cochrane), "If you don't fit, you shouldn't sit."

(For 8 years since then, I honestly can say that I am tempted to repeat this simple phrase at least 3 times a week when I see a corpulent person barreling towards me in an attempt to squeeze into the tiny space next to me.)


The moral of the story is that sometimes the direct approach works best to get what you want.

A different moral is that when you're direct, you may get your ass kicked by a large woman.

I'll make this point. Any time I got involved with someone new she always smelled different from the previous person. The first few times I thought it was BO. But then I realized it was something going on in me. Human Beings smell. Get over it. My current gal smelled weird to me the first few months, but she definitely used deodorant and is clean as a whistle. Years later I can't even imagine sniffing another woman . . .

Thanks all, youbetcha this isn't a smell one can try and get over. It slaps you in the face and you have to shake it off. I will try the direct route and I will have some all-natural deodorant standing by. As it is, when she open her arms to hug me I have to take a deep breath and hold it. Not good.

I give you credit for trying. That person wouldn't have had a second chance with me, let alone a first.

A friend just suggested A Spray

Love that video! Too funny!

You do realize that nobody wants to meet your S.O. now ;-)

after A spray they will

But if she ever sees this she may poison your food

But she will be smelling better than Lanny F the contractor!

Good thing she is not from NYC!

It's the internet. You're a guy. Chances are pretty good that she'll stumble across it.

And then there are the "friends" who in a drunk state will say something like "so is the deodorant working for you?" or "you don't smell as bad as MeredithB said" or "You must be ..., I could smell you from a mile away" or any other variation of that.

Is this a real thread?

I'm a guy?

Shhhh.

I haven't spoke of this with my friends.

Don't let Mougar anywhere near her.

Carnivore wrote: Don't let Mougar anywhere near her.

ahahahah

so true.....

Whatchuwant wrote

European?

I'm sorry, what? Europeans don't smell. Step on a crowded German subway and it will smell much nicer than a New York one.

Meredith, your problem is not that your significant other doesn't wear deodorant. Your problems (there are three) are that you don't feel comfortable talking to women like they are people (you would have no problem telling a man they smell, but have to dance around it with women?); that you are involved with someone you don't feel comfortable telling the simplest thing, "you smell sometimes"; and worst of all, that you are involved with someone who smells. Lack of deodorant doesn't mean presence of odor. If you smell bad often, deodorant is just gonna add an extra flavor to it. It's similar to how all the urinal mints in the world aren't gonna make you wanna breath in deep at the Penn Station toilets.

Wrong Herman.

Who is Herman?

Entschuldigen Sie mich

i feel my comment was unfairly ignored. seriously: diet and fabric change! will work wonders!